I have said that he would walk into every team world wide apart from Barcelona, and arguably Real Madrid. It's interesting that you also note those two teams, as we all know, they are in a league of their own, and stand out amongst the elite, let's look at every other team though, he'd walk into our team, he'd walk into Manchester United and Manchester City's team, he'd walk into the Chelsea team, Tottenham, Liverpool. Juventus, Milan, Bayern Munich, Dortmund. I personall ythink he would get ahead of Di Maria as well in the Real Madrid team. We've been in for him for a very long time, perhaps he has his heart set on us, and the price is explained by Malaga's desperation for money.
Although Cazorla made his name as a winger, it isn't his best position, his best position is as an attacking midfielder, although he gives exceptional performances in every midfield position.
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To be honest I haven't seen a lot of him, most of my opinions are doubts and I'm not saying they are 100%. I just found it hard to believe that he would get into Barca and Madrid's team and that he was up there with Messi and Ronaldo. Juan Mata, David Silva, Aguero etc are all world class, but they are not on level with Messi or Ronaldo. Doesn't mean I'm saying Cazorla isn't world class.
You proved you don't know anything when you labeled Cazorla as a winger and nothing other than a winger, you disqualified yourself from saying any more about this player and subject. Move along. Cazorla is a great midfield player who can play on the wings, midfield, and midfield attack, just the type of player Wenger likes.
And did I deny he is a winger? Did I deny he can be used and played out wide? Yes, he can, and does play winger, but he also can and does play as an attacking midfielder, he can play in both. And even if he was an out and out winger, Madrid, still have their wings covered. So does a team like Barcelona.
No, you didn't. I also didn't deny he could play as an attacking midfielder. Yes, my point entirely - he wouldn't get into Barca or Madrid in either position.
Doesn't make sense, if he was better than surely he would get in ahead of the cover they've got? Anyway, it's all a matter of opinion and mine is that he is not better than any of Barca's players in his position and any of Madrid's.
Cazorla played a third of his games last season through the middle... Also, he is in the same bracket as Mata and Silva. And he would get ahead of Di Maria for Real Madrid.
It's not his best position though, his best position is attacking midfield. The reason he is played on the wing is so that Isco can be accommodated. My opinion is always correct, and please, actually read through the thread before you come in here trying to make some earth shattering statements, everything you have said has already been answered by my self and a few others if you could be bothered to look back, it's incredibly tedious having to repeat my self because morons like you don't know how to use a mouse, what makes it worse is that fact that so many of you have absolutely no clue about this player, what so ever, and are purely going off his reputation in the UK. Where as I have been a regular watcher of his for quite some time now. He's actually better than Mata as well, but in the same bracket.
My questions will be answered next season, not now by your self-righteous, arrogant, pompous opinions . o·pin·ion A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge
I'm interested to know why you think he's better than Mata. Stats-wise Mata had a better season. Games played, goals scored, assists (club - domestic). Mata - 42/10/17 Cazorla 40/9/5 I understand that's it not all about stats, and I have seen Cazorla a fair bit, and I'm aware he's a very very good player. I'm just wondering if, had you signed Mata and it was Chelsea who were now on the verge of signing Cazorla you would have the same opinion.
Of course I would have the same opinion, I'm not biased. I don't let trivial things cloud my judgement. He's better because he is more versatile, he is a better passer, a better dribbler, better defensively, has a more lethal shot, he's more creative, uses space and creates it's more wisely. Don't get me wrong, Mata is a magnficent player, and as I have said, they are in the same bracket, but Cazorla is better.
You don't seem to be grasping any of this do you? I asked you to explain why you think he would get into the Barca and Madrid sides, I also asked why someone thought he was in the same bracket as Messi and Ronaldo and at the same time no other clubs have gone for him? Messi and Ronaldo are MILES ahead of any player on the planet in their positions, all my point was that it seems very surprising that NO other club are going for a player who is supposedly the same quality as Messi and Ronaldo. As oppose to Hazard, who every major club in the continent was after. So far your explanations have been that he is 'world class' (which is no proof at all) and that your opinion is always right - which doesn't make sense.
If he was a better passer and shooter, and more creative, why did he not score more than Mata or get more assists? I accept the versatility point and Cazorla also has a better set piece, although Mata's isn't bad.
No, I have grasped it, you've just been lazy though. Again, I didn't say he would get into the Barcelona team, I said he would get into every team in the world, apart from Barcelona, and debatably Real Madrid. All though, even if he were at Barcelona, he would push hard for a starting spot and be heavily involved in rotation. For Real Madrid, I think he would start ahead of Di Maria on the right, and he would get ahead of Kaka and have a huge fight with Ozil for the central role. You shouldn't ask me the question about putting him in the bracket with Messi and Ronaldo, as I didn't say that. I am not sure why other clubs haven't gone for him, as far as I am aware, Tottenham were interested but Cazorla preferred Arsenal. Manchester United have no need for him as they went for a younger player that comes with great marketing, they also have a surplus of wingers. Manchester City have no need for him as they already have two great similar players in Nasri and Silva, although Cazorla is better than Nasri. Chelsea, well, they seem to be going for younger players. I don't think any other teams in England could attract him. In La Liga, the only clubs where he would be taking a step up to are Real Madrid and Barcelona, Barcelona are packed in the positions he plays, as are Real Madrid. There's no need for him at Juventus or Milan as they have very good players for those positions already, although Cazorla is better than them, respectively. That just leaves Germany or PSG. Bayern already have established stars in those positions and young players are being brought in and up. Dortmund, well, there not really the team to go make a signing like that. All you have to do is look at the Juan Mata transfer from last season, it only seemed like Arsenal and Chelsea were interested, does that take away from his talents though? No. What proof do you want me to give to you that he is world class? It's not my fault that he doesn't have a big reputation in the UK amongst all you simple minded, Premier League fan boys.
