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Come back Imaz

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by NORTHOLT, Aug 2, 2012.

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  1. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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    If Imaz chooses to imprison his mind in that stupid religion, he leaves himself open to ridicule.

    He's deliberately turning innocuous jokes into 'bait' just so people will turn down the heat and he gets beneficial treatment from Brixton's own version of Atticus Finch. Very subtly playing the race card.

    If he's gonna be like that, I won't lose sleep over him not being a part of a supposedly reason-based discussion forum any more.
     
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  2. KooPeeArr

    KooPeeArr Well-Known Member

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    As opposed to you restricting yourself to your silly little team?

    Now **** off you narrow minded cretin.
     
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  3. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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    No, as opposed to not imprisoning his mind by not adhering to religion. Why would my football orientation have any bearing on this discussion?

    Very open-minded thing of you to say, Matthew. You know what you are. And as much as your approval means to my ability to sleep at night, I'll stick around.
     
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  4. KooPeeArr

    KooPeeArr Well-Known Member

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    If that's your worldly view and tolerance level then I think your outlook is severely restricted.

    We've had a fill of these conversations and you chipping in at the end with a mindless post has added nothing except irritation.
     
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  5. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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    My view that unreasonable people shouldn't be taken seriously in reasonable fora has never restricted me. It's benefited me.

    It's irritated you because you know deep down that there's something to it. That's why you've thus far failed to successfully debunk any of my points.
     
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  6. Swords Hoopster

    Swords Hoopster New Member

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    Bloody hell Matt, that's a bit harsh isn't it?

    Jerel's a very good poster and he's definitely entitled to his opinion like the rest of us.

    You're normally Mr Ice Cool on here Matty. I'm surprised at your response!
     
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  7. KooPeeArr

    KooPeeArr Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you've made any point except alienating yourself from anyone who embraces religion. In fact, you basically said that anyone that disagrees with you is open to ridicule.

    I choose atheism but won't condemn other people for their beliefs. I enjoy life's rich tapestry and all the people and views that make it so interesting. I could draw an exception in your case due to your arrogant, hollow pseudo intellectualism.

    And you saying your posts are valid and insightful doesn't make them so.
     
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  8. KooPeeArr

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    Put it in context of the week we've had on here.

    Someone from another board twisting the knife in after all the outpourings?
     
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  9. QPRtheyoungone

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    I completely agree.
    I'm more mature than a whole lot of you.
    And you're probably all old enough to be my father!
    (Edit: Well, some of you, at least!)
    It's insane that you're less immature than a teenager!
    I'm part Arab myself, and some of the things said on here are sickening

    I've stopped posting regularly also, because most of the post have been utter s**te, not that anybody has noticed, anyway.
    I think the mods we have do a great job, but really, some of you need to grow up.

    And sorry if I've caused any offence, none of it is purposeful)

    Fix up, people. We are ALL QPR. Whether Muslim, Christian, Atheist, Black, White, Asian, ANYTHING.
    Do we really want to be acting like small minded John Ter- I mean racists?! ;)
     
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  10. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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    No, I said that unreasonable people are open to ridicule. If they deliberately choose not to base their views on facts, and then complain when they get laughed at, I see no need to take them seriously.

    My wider point was that he was imagineering this witch hunt against him which doesn't exist to my knowledge. As Swords has pointed out, there were no jibes to belittle his ethnicity. Even when there is banter of that nature, I think it takes a bigger man to stick it out, give some back and break down barriers than take the easy option and storm off in a sympathy-engendering huff.

    Whereas I want a world where everyone wears grey hessian onesies with their social security number stencilled on, speaks Esperanto, has two kids and moves to annihilate all minority races, sexualities and religions.

    So screw your rich tapestry.

    Nor does you saying they're not.

    Maybe the knife is there to plug the gap all this stuff is pouring out from?
     
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  11. Swords Hoopster

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    I know what you're saying mate but still, I didn't see that one coming - not from you.

    I reared up on Jerel once before because I thought he was a rabid Loyalist when he was slagging off Celtic and their fans (not that I'm overly fond of them by the way) but the guy is as genuine as they come. He's just forthright with his opinions and I of all people couldn't condemn the man for that.

    A couple of his football-related discussions with Nines deep into the night have been among the best I've seen on here.

    In fact, I think yourself and Uber had a similar conversation to this one on the other Imaz thread but you stopped short of calling him a narrow minded cretin! <laugh>
     
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  12. QPR999

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    Matt is indeed one of our most insightful posters. I feel sorry for anyone who chooses to pick a war of words with him. He will shoot them down in flames. The very fact that as swords has stated, Matt has reacted seemingly out of character, will justify in the closing of all religious based threads. What we now have is two respected posters going at each other for religious based posts un-football related.

    It matters not a jot to me if your religious or not, the only religion that needs discussing is that of football.
     
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  13. Swords Hoopster

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    A very thinly veiled threat there.

    You think you can dictate who gets banned and who doesn't? How conceited.
     
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  14. KooPeeArr

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    I apologise Jerel for my overreaction. Perhaps I should have just said it was ill timed (the dust has just about settled and we've lost a very knowledgeable poster in the process).

    Fact is, Imaz rarely stated any personal beliefs so never actually had those questioned but he did experience a level of persecution that was based on belonging to a minority and also for making political observation.

    This thread isn't representative of that (most such ones have been shut down or removed) and so the full picture might not be apparent.

    The fact that a 16 year old can so effectively highlight the cabin fever on here by putting us all to shame might provide a better insight.

    Respect Young One. Apologies again Mr Ifil.
     
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  15. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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    No worries Matt, and I'm sorry if my straight-talking Yorkshireman exterior makes me look like a desensitized misanthrope.

    I didn't see the majority of Imaz's perceived persecution, but the straw that seems to have broken the camel's back (<< NOT A RACIAL JOKE, PLEASE DON'T KILL ME) was a pretty flimsy one indeed. And the thrust of his post was that QPR having religious (Muslim) players is a great thing, putting his little cute 'mashallah' thingy.

    And sorry, youngone, but we are not 'ALL QPR'. ;) And I can guarantee you I'd have had to be a very sexually mature toddler to be your father.
     
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  16. QPRtheyoungone

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    Well f**k off from the QPR board then! ;)
    (Not really)
     
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  17. TheLoneRanger

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    [/QUOTE]

    A very thinly veiled threat there.

    You think you can dictate who gets banned and who doesn't? How conceited.[/QUOTE]

    How is that a threat?

    I don't need to suggest, dictate or lobby to get you banned swords, you're doing a fine job of that yourself. Bravo.
     
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  18. Queenslander!!

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    WOW..If that doesnt get Jerel a 7 day ban from our board then I'll be very surprised.....!

    Going onto another board to exclain a poster is stupid because he has a religion....This coming from a Yorkshireman, which is an area "with a few diffrent cultures"

    See you in a week pal, and it'll be a week to soon for me...
     
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  19. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    maybe we could go back to the cross board threads where we were all on the same side
     
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  20. Swords Hoopster

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    But you're doing all three! <doh>

    Not sure the Moderator would take kindly to you telling him what to do either.
     
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