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  1. looking in

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    boston 2 hull city 2 (margetts 2)
     
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  2. Premier_Bound_Tiger

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    Margetts seems to be scoring for fun, seems 10X better the Cullen surely if Cullen deserves a chance he does?
     
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  3. Hank Scorpio

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    I'm hoping Cullen is sent somewhere on loan. Preferably a league 2 team.
     
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  4. John. Walkington.

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    Afraid Cullen is a similar story to Gary Bradshaw. Just unable to make the step up from the reserves.
     
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    I'd prefer if he moved somewhere permanently, frustrates me so much.... always offside
     
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    I agree with you on both counts, that would be perfect, but it means someone has to come in for him. And i can't see it.
     
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  7. roseniorhisgranisfromhull

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    Didn't Cullen once score something like 40'ish goals in a season for the reserves? I may be wrong but I seem to remember he had an immense season one year in the reserves.
     
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    cullen 1 margetts 1, assist cullen apparently
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

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    Cullen's such a hard one to judge, he looks far too good in the reserves, but not good enough in the first team.

    He definitely needs a loan and he needs it to work out, or he's knackered.

    I like Margetts, but I'd like to see him get a league loan too(the reserve league's ****, we might as well loan everyone to league or non-league and pull out of the reserve league).

    Nick always reckoned that our behind closed doors games were far more useful than the reserve games.
     
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    He's doing exactly what Cullen has already done - scoring **** loads in non-competitive games. I agree that he's a prospect, but surely if this guy is good based on scoring reserve/friendly goals, then so is Cullen?

    Something like that, he'd hit about 30 by Christmas time.

    I really don't see what everyone means by not good enough in the first team. He's not achieved anything, but how is he supposed to in 5-minute sub appearances? It's not like he's played for a prolonged time in the first team and been shown to be not good enough. There must be a reason 4 different managers keep putting him in the team when the likes of Devitt haven't been involved. I agree that he needs a loan to work out for him. Personally I'd send him to a League 2 team where he should have a good chance of getting games, too many loans end up being completely pointless because the player doesn't even get played.

    Also, the offside argument is a total load of ****. He's offside when he makes runs trying to score. No one minds when Fryatt is offside with his back to goal, if it's such a big problem for an inexperienced youngster, why does the senior pro get away with it?
     
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    The offside thing has come about because he's been ridiculously offside on so many occasions, I remember one game when the entire crowd were repeatedly screaming at him to stay onside, but he kept running forward way too early.

    I think it might have been away at Barnsley, I'm not sure, but it wa almost pantomime.
     
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    I know you already know what I'm going to say, but if Cullen being offside making a run is enough to make him **** at the age of 20, then Fryatt idly standing with his back to goal near the halfway line and managing to be offside as an experienced pro is inexcusable.

    And I think it was Barnsley away.
     
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    Difference is that Fryatt is a natural goalscorer whilst Cullen isn't
     
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    I disagree but it doesn't matter. We're talking about whether being offside makes someone **** or not. By talking about goals instead you're more or less admitting that him being offside doesn't actually matter.
     
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    All strikers get caught offside to varying degrees, but with some players, they seem to find it impossible to stay onside at all.

    Fryatt isn't in the same league as Cullen when it comes to offsides, it's like he's got some sort of illness that forces him to run too early. He probably caught it from Folan.
     
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    I did notice that last night's team were called "development squad" which must be had for Cullen to swallow. His loan spells have been useless either cos he has not got a game or been injured. He has had hardly any time in the first team to really make an impact. In the behind closed doors games last year he was scoring loads of goals cos he and the other lads were tweeting about it. I think for him, Cooper, Bradley and East the best thing would be for them to ask for transfers and go and play for a League 2 team where they could get regular games and work up from their because they are just wasting their time at City.
     
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    I think certainly for Cullen, this is the right option. It might sound exceptionally harsh and Im not criticising him but I literally cannot see a single scenario in which he would be a regular for City, it's just not going to happen. Even if he had 20 ressie goals by October and the 4 strikers ahead of him all got injured we would just get loans in (you can still loan then cant you? Anyway, you get the point). It would be different if he'd had sparkling spells when he went out on loan but he hasnt done that.

    Thanks, best wishes and goodbye.
     
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  18. RicardoHCAFC

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    Depends how you interpret developmental. If you take it as meaning it's to develop the younger players then having older players like Oxley, Devitt, Cullen, and Hughes playing gives you more experiance to guide them and for them to learn from, as well as something to measure the performance of others against. Unless he got injured I'd be more bothered if I was Fran McCaffrey, getting subbed when you've only come on at half-time can't be good for a player's confidence.

    I don't see why Cooper or Bradley would be asking for transfers, Cooper has needed to bulk up and then this season either be a regular sub for us or go out on loan to a top end L1 club who'll play him (unlike Huddersfield), and Bradley had a good loan last season and just needs to move up a level this season. Cullen is in a make or break season for himself and probably should go elsewhere, and East needs to get games somewhere on loan. I don't see the rush though so long as the right loans are found. Paul Scholes was almost 20 when he made his debut for Man U (shy by a month or two). Being a little bit behind Paul Scholes progression from youth to first team is hardly grounds for players to say they're wasting their time.
     
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    Cooper made his debut for us four years ago and was playing for us in the Premier League three years ago, now we're talking about him getting a League One loan, if that's not going backwards, then I don't know what is.
     
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  20. mussiesredhat

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    Cullen is a natural goalscorer, as you put it, He has already proved he can score goals. He needs a run in team somewhere - anywhere - to start scoring regularly once again. Perhaps its a confidence thing, but this season will be a key one for him for sure. I am told he is an arrogant little so and so, but most footballers are I believe. I still rate the kid and wish him luck.
     
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