The FA have charged John Terry

It seems to me that those who are calling for "justice" simply want terry to be found guilty and punished by anyone and everyone regardless of whether he's guilty or not.

Sorry to say that among the worst culprits are some supporters of Liverpool - British justice was wonderful when their captain was acquitted of assault despite CCTV footage showing him battering someone. Funnily enough, when John Terry was totally exonerated British justice stinks. As their owners would say, go figure.......

 

Well, the court found him not guilty because they need to prove 99% (at least) that he used such language. The FA don't, meaning it's far easier for the FA to charge him.

Terry's defence was effective but as you say, the whole thing seems very confused now.

Was it? Does anyone say Gerrard was right to do that? This isn't really about who you support, or 'x' team did this, 'y' player did that. Two wrongs don't make a right and such.

Admittedly, some supporters will argue along such partisan lines.

 

No confusion at all - the courts found him not guilty - end of story. If the FA really wants to sort this one out then they're going to need to charge Rio, Emmanuel Frimpong and another Uruguayan from Liverpool all of whom have been racist or at the every least offensive about people of other races or skin colour on Twitter. Good luck getting the lid back on that can of worms.

It shouldn't be about who you support but it is interesting to see a disproportionate amount of Liverpool fans on these threads. It can only be one of two reasons: a) the city has a huge social conscience which seeks to stamp out on any abuse aimed at other individuals in any situation in society or b) they see Suares getting charged and, regardless of the difference in the cases, want the same punishment visited upon Terry. I think most people who've seen your fans in action would plump with option B.

 

Of course there is a problem when you look at the big picture - there are a lot of people that could, maybe should be found guilty of something. But, it's unrealistic to think that it will happen, as what the FA do is make examples about people.

I think there should be a difference between what happens on the pitch and on Twitter but that's another issue - when does it become a police issue, for instance.

I think there are more Liverpool fans because of the Suarez affair - it's natural we would take an interest.

I imagine there are a lot of people who are wanting Terry punished to in some way support Suarez. But, personally what I find interesting is the legal side (I'm studying law in a few months) and the various objectives at play - the racism pressure groups, the fans, the FA's own goals etc.

Thanks for the reply

 

Oh of course you're not picking the bones out of a petty argument. you made a statement regarding a ban then chose to debate HALF of the statement, then went on about dictionaries because you were trying to deflect the fact the fact you had ****ed up and now, once again, you're doing it again. Just like to add that sarcasm is brilliant when used properly, when you use it use enforce a statement you have ****ed up on, you make yourself look a right tit - Don't you?

 

and there we go again, highlighting someone's intelligence (or lack of) because they don't agree with your opinion but are quick to voice your 'displeasure' of others who do the same! - how strange?

 

There's a difference between calmly suggesting that someone's inability to comprehend a simple point numerous times might be due to a lack of intelligence (though in CP's case he seems to have a bone to pick with me as he comes across as a reasonably intellectual guy at times) and getting over-excited when someone says something perfectly normal which you don't like to the point you just hurl random insults. I'm more than happy for anyone to have a different point of view if they want to have an adult discussion about it. This is potentially a great format for fans of all teams to talk about a wide range of issues and it gets ruined when people lack the IQ to add anything other than an empty expletive.

 

To be honest nothing you just typed is worth commenting on; please stop derailing the thread.

Just ignore her/him, best way for it.

 

Of course it's not because you did in fact state JT should receive an equal or LARGER ban than Suarez but refuse to elaborate on it for some reason. Is it because you now realise you've cocked up but can't admit it. I'll make it simple - Did you or did you not state that JT should receive an equal or LARGER ban than Suarez then go back on your statement when I asked why he should receive a LARGER ban, deciding only to mention the part about an EQUAL ban then giving it large about dictionaries THEN refusing to comment on any of it after you'd realised you had in fact ****ed up with your original statement!

 

Tel, at the end of the day the FA want their pound of flesh and they'll get it. Most of the Terry haters just want to see him punished in any way possible. Anyone who thinks he should get a larger ban than Suarez has obviously got a blind allegiance to Liverpool. Suarez repeated it 8 times so that case isn't in the same league. Just let them get on with it while we concentrate on winning trophies.

 

You really are like a broken record.

If you read back through the thread (have you even done that yet?) you'll see it's not really what's been discussed.

I've so, so many better things to do than quibble with you over the wording of one phrase, several pages back, when there has been much better discussion that you still choose to ignore.

If it annoys you so much, buy a stress ball, hit a pillow, do something; it's not my problem.

 

Will you just **** off from the Chelsea board you boring tit.

 

Congratulations on a 1:11 swear words to total words used ratio!

The wonderful irony of your post is that you're constantly posting inane rubbish on other boards.

 

Yes it is. For all fans, of all intellects, not just highly intelligent posters such as yourself

 

I think any player who feels its ok to use language like that (swearing, rude, coarse, unneccessary language in general) on the sports field with millions watching (or even just thousands) is disgraceful... And should receive just punishment of some sort. Whether it is Suarez, Evra, Anton or TERRY..

If someone spoke like that down the park while you were with your child, you would say something. It shouldnt be any different cause he is a sporting star.

So should Terry be punished by the FA - Rightly so! as should Anton and every other tool who speaks gargabe like that on the sporting field.

 

I can do better than that. I can post the part of the judgement in which Howard Riddle (the magistrate) records what Terry admitted he said:-



"The defendant does not deny that he used the words, “**** off, **** off”, “****ing black ****” or “****ing knobhead”. His case is that his words were not uttered by way of abuse or insult nor were they intended to be abusive or insulting."


If you are genuinely interested in reading the judgement, as opposed to merely slavishly and blindly following the racist buffoon out of a misguided and misplaced sense of loyalty, you can find a link to it in this news item. If you do read this judgement, and also the FA's rules on how it expects professional footballers to conduct themselves, you will have to accept (if only to yourself) that Terry has rightly been charged by the FA, and that he ought to be severely punished. More so that Suarez, in my view.


Link to John "iron my hood, bitch!" Terry's trial transcript

 

terry has to get a ban of some sort to send the right message out regarding racism.

Even if it is half the length of Suarez ban (who said negro many times in a more calculating way to get Evra wound up, whereas terry's was simply a stupid kneejerk reaction)

 

Why more than Suarez? ,, Didn't he repeat it eight times? My point being even If Terry did use the words in the context that you and most perceive he did, it was a one off, heat of the moment outburst, He didn't run around the pitch and call him a BC eight times.

 

It doesn't really excuse it by saying it was 'heat of the moment'.

I've been in many 'heat of the moment' situations over the past year (captain of my rugby team during my last year of school). I've had 5 or 6 people screaming in my face, trying to punch me because they can't take losing, or pressure etc. You don't react to that with insults. You go to the referee, you wait until there's calm, you go to the opposition player(s) that are angry and you shake hands. No-one needs to tell you how or what to do, you just do it in the interest of a sporting, fair game.

Now, I'm 18. Terry is a much, much, much better and more experienced athlete than I ever will be. He should have acted with much more dignity and class, regardless.

If this was rugby, both of them would have been yellowed or sent off, no fuss.

 

If only Terry had your dignity and class, he woudn't be in this mess.