Joey Barton

Just read this, really hope the FA step in and reject any approach from QPR for this to happen - absolute joke if you ask me.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18971248

Things like this are the exact reason we should look at banning players for a number of weeks rather than a number of games like they do in Rugby (i think it is ?).

 

They should stop it, unless it's a year long loan... In which case it'd just be funny

Barton would probably love the rougher lower leagues though

 

I thought it was an insane overreaction by the FA anyway, 4 games would have sufficed. It's a competitive sport, some people need to man up, I was loving it when Joey lost his rag.

 

What if he'd done it versus our players? Or injured someone?

 

He didn't though. This whole thing is a stupid little incident that's got blown way out of proportion. If it hadn't been Barton involved then it would have been a much smaller ban.

Actually, if it hadn't been Barton the incident never would have happened because Tevez would have been sent off before anything could happen. Barton gets the **** kicked out of him every week and nothing gets done because "Haha! He deserves it!" - Eventually that's going to cause anyone to lash out. If the referees did the job they're supposed to do it never would have occured, instead they've pretty much given every other player the liberty to do what they like because it's very unlikely they'll get punished for it.

 

What did he actually do? A timid elbow or whatever which was retaliation to him being singled out, YET AGAIN, by the opposition. Then a knee to the buttock and a nothing push of the head. Absolutely nowt.

 

Wow... I didn't think anyone believed Barton's self-absorption...

It is not ok, under any circumstances, to react in such a manner. If you were a QPR fan or he had done it in a Newcastle shirt, I doubt you'd be so liberal about it. It was stupid, aggressive nonsense, which got him a red card rightly. And before Barton can go mouthing off about him being a special case, he got Diaby sent-off by doing similar aggravating things, and Diaby got a ban. He did it with Gervinho too.

The ban was absolutely correct because he could have expected a 4 game ban for anyone of the those three incidents, that's the FA rules

He PURPOSEFULLY went and tried to start 2 fights after getting sent off. I don't understand how anyone can bend/side-step/magic-away logic to defend it.

 

Openly bending the rules is bad.

 

Half of the City team were just as guilty for trying to start fights - They were grabbing all over him and shouting abuse. Barton deserved a red card and a 3 or 4 game ban. Nothing more, nothing less.

Diaby and Gervinho were sent off after they attacked Barton, the same way Tevez should have been. The difference between the situations is that Barton evidently still had some patience back then and forced the referee into actually doing his job - And for some reason was still treated by the media as the aggressor in those situations.

 

I'm still ****ing livid that Tevez has gone completely unpunished for his part in the incident.

 

Poor old Joey, his reputation always goes before him.

 

I definitely agree Tevez should have been sent off, anyone who does that should be, but there's no excuse for reacting. Chris Hughton especially must have had him tight on the leash, because he barely stepped out of line here.

The thing is anyone who reacts is just as guilty, and deserve a fitting suspension for reacting. Barton should rise above these things.

And he hardly has an unfair reputation. The fact he's targeted is testament to it being a deserved rep. If he could ignore it, he'd be targeted less, but he's just this mist which descends...

Cheick the Room talked of people needing to "man up", but the truth is it's Barton who needs to "man up" and stop reacting. Get on with your job, let the ref do his, and anything the ref gets wrong goes to review!

 

The fact is though is that the ref isn't doing his job. If he had then Barton would never have needed or had time to react, because Tevez would have been off by then.

This whole incident started because a referee decided to not punish a clear elbow to Barton's face. I'm not saying Barton was right to react in the way he did - Obviously he wasn't, but let's not forget that he was not the initial cause of it all. Tevez was, followed by the referee's decision to take no action. It's not just a simple case of the referee getting it wrong - It's the same thing that let Song get away with a clear stamp on Barton's ankle in clear sight of one of the assistants. The fact is that they allow a certain amount of aggression against Barton that they don't for any other player.

 

I think, to be honest, Joey has brought it on himself by being so aggressive to begin with, which spawned the reputation and the attempts to wind him up. If there's someone on the other team who will snap, the manager will likely tell them to be rough with him, and try to wind him up. Part of the game, though red card offences are inexcusable.

Really Joey is the initial cause because he's got this reputation. Tevez should be punished, and so should Song, Joey needs to stop being a schizo. It's not self-defence to nobble someone who punched or elbowed you seconds before. If someone was annoying you at work, you wouldn't punch them in the office. If they hit you, but nobody saw it, punching them back is still not right. Joey needs to get this through his thick skull.

An important issue in football, which this debate tends towards, is if a ref reports something, no further action can be taken. That's bollocks. A yellow for a red challenge should be able to be overturned by the panel, and the worthy suspension added. I would advocate two types of suspension from then on:

1. The ref sees it and sends them off - 3 matches at least, depending on offence.
2. The ref sees it and gives a yellow, or does not see it at all - 4 matches.

Somethings definitely need to be more robust to stop cheating

 

Fully agree with the second part of your post - The ref's report being final is a bunch of **** that's just an excuse for the FA to be lazy.

The fact that Barton has a reputation doesn't really excuse the fact that other teams exploit it. It also doesn't excuse the fact that referees let them exploit it.
Yeah, you wouldn't punch someone for being annoying in the office - But if someone took a swing at you in the office then you'd probably take one back, which is what happened. It's not self defence as such, it's just a human reaction. On a football field it's the referee's job to prevent things like that from happening. He failed.

What happened after Barton went for Tevez is as much the fault of everyone else involved as it is Barton. The referee failed to control the situation, the City players were quite clearly goading Barton on to attack, and he unfortunately went for it. Why is he the only one who's got any kind of punishment for it? Their is a clear agenda from the FA and the media against him.

 

Good thinking on QPRs part. Very sharp and very cute. The FA will need to close that louphole.

 

Send him to Scotland

 

If it was just the elbow on Tevez, I'd sympathise with Barton, but no one realises the fact that Tevez was pushing him around before Barton did anything.

But the kick on Aguero was ridiculous.

 

Funny though, it was right up his hoopla!

 

He should enter for Britain's got talent! Most of the contestants seem to want to stick it to the arseholes...