Ronaldo, kaka, Messi, Zidane etc could all have been bought for less than 15 million if bought at the right time in their careers........ Liverpool are developing youth whi will only ever increase in value........I for one welcome what the owners are doing, buying young and then developing the talent.....I think at some point they will have to dip their hands in their pockets if we need a player that is not coming through the reserves/academy. You could bring 8 world class players in and they may not gel, get along, like being just another player instead of a big fish.........Or you can develop youth together and as they become top players they have already gelled with their team mates..... What would people have us do? Spend another 100 million and see if it works? Then repeat if it doesnt and so on and so forth until bancruptcy.......Or build a model that can compete at the top....... I think we will be alot better next season as a squad and i think its great that it will have nothing to do with breaking the bank.....
I do believe he is a good player and has a lot of potential. I just feel that we need players who are nearer to their prime right now (like Suarez was when he arrived at LFC).
What word did you spell wrong Back on topic can anyone name the last bargain we have got. I am wondering if out scouting team is any good.
1999.05.18 Sami Hyypia Willem 2.65m 2004.08.20 Luis Garcia Barcelona 6m 2006.01.12 Daniel Agger Brondby £5.8m
If Enrique can become consistent he could be one and if Coates realizes his potential he could be another.
Agger and Skrtel were the going rate at the time for a defender. skrtel was 5 years ago now I think so not doing that well with finding hidden gems.
IF, and I accept, only IF, FFP starts to take effect, this will be a reasonable strategy. We have one more full year of dumbass spending and ridiculous salaries and then ALL clubs will have to spend within their means....won't they?
or they can just sponsor themselves ( Etihad stadium 400 mil? having a laugh) to cover this. Wonder if that is why Chelsea have upped their sponsorship count?
Siggy for £8mill...oh wait...nope...er Joe Allen for double that then?? Werners statement makes for painful reading for me but its not something that surprises me to be honest I've been saying for weeks that people can put any idea of a "marquee" signing back in the box for a good long time. Fair play to them in terms of "financial sustainability" but I find it quite hard to get my head around that concept when they are willing to take a £15million pound loss on Carroll (a young player as well who has time to develop). As I've said before this will put our spending power to a level with the blurts from across the park. Get used to it fellas. I'd also like to take up Redbrynners point about youth development and say that again it is a noble idea and sounds brilliant in theory...but if it was that easy every one would be doing it surely. Personally I don't expect the owners to be pumping billions into the team but I did think they might have the balls to back "their" new man in his first transfer window.
While KK and DC made some big cock ups and did pay over the odds there should be some defence of their spending. Liverpool did, on a regular basis, dominate games. They often had double figures on attempts and hit the word work a record number of times. The bad buys from last season with a little more luck and possibly a clinical finisher thrown in would have been seen as much more sensible purchases. Obviously with hindsight they were bad buys and the spendings has made LFC looks like right doughnuts but they were not as completely useless as made out. Even Adam for 11 assists last season, imagine what he would have got if there was a decent striker?
Yeah actually maybe I was being a tad optimistic I actually don't care if the net spend is really low and in a way I'm glad that at least they are being a bit more honest, even if there is still a touch of bluster about the statement. The simple fact is that if they aren't going to back BR with dollars then we have to hope he can spot (and go and get) a few bargains. If he can do that then all hail the mighty "Buck". Its a hell of a big ask for him though.
I am getting heartily sick of this "Kenny wasted it" nonesense. Suarez most certainly wasn't a waste of money. Carroll was beginning to show at the end of the season just what a dangerous player he could be. Henderson has improved significantly over last season. Enrique is still one of the best Left backs in the country and Coates is a very exciting prospect. That leaves Adam and Downing. For me this season will go far better for Adam ad we will see some of the skills that he was displaying for Blackpool. Downing I am not so sure about. So 6 out of 7 purchases can be considered as being positive. Now don't go telling me that we could have had X or Y for the same money. Firstly you don't know if that is true and secondly, just because they look good on a computer game, does not mean that they could or would be effective for LFC. We are far from having to "make do". Warner is talking of a self-sustaining model. Such a model has at least 2 major elements to it: (a) internal development (b) producing sufficient income to meet the investment needs of the club. Both of these legs are already well underway. Liverpool have a tradition of buying good though not marquee players. When we have bought 'names' we have significantly fallen on our face - Morrientes and Kewell come quickly to mind! Even Kenny himself was only considered as being a good player and not marquee when we bought him. At the same time our old development system was producing the likes of Hall, Case, McMannamon, God, Owen etc.
Maybe they do but rather than following the same pattern off chucking money at it and seeing how the manager does, they decided to see how the manager does first? I'm sure some people will have something to say about my comments but here goes... I don't get the big problem people have with this. We weren't happy under the previous owners because we had massive debts. We weren't happy about throwing money around last summer either. But then, this year fans seem to want us to go and spend £20+ on someone as 'a marquee signing'. It's a bit of a joke really Don't get me wrong, I want us to be successful just like every other LFC fan, but I don't want us to chuck money at it in the hope we get CL football. People need to remember that chucking money at a project isn't guaranteed to get CL football either, there are some very good bloody sides ahead of us that are also spending large amounts of money! Fans need to be realistic. IMO, £15m players can be very good: Alonso at £10.5m anyone? Agger at £6.8m? Skrtel at £5.6m? Enrique at £6m? Lucas at £6m? Sissoko at £6.8m? Benayoun at £6m? Reina at £6m? Crouch at £7m? Are we all forgetting about our promising youth set up too? So what if it takes time to build the side up, IMO that is a good thing! Edit: I didn't read beyond the comment by Sir_Red when I wrote this so apologies if some of this stuff as been covered
Alot of people do do it. City and Chelsea have good academys, but they lack faith in young players and end up spending big to keep where they are. Man Utd have a good academy and bring a fair amount of talent through. Everton and West Ham are very good, but end up losing their young stars through lack of ambition, Arsenal are similar but keep their good youth a bit longer. Barcelona do it best and a fair amount of their first team comes from youth....... It is a noble strategy, but you do have to make sure you end up like United or Barca rather than West Ham or Everton....... You have to have some existing stars with ambition at your club to hold on to them as they become well known.....Gerrard, Suarez, Reina help with this for now, but we have to make sure these stars are replaced as they age or we will not ba able to hold onto our youth. I dont think i could handle that..Im already a Bristol rugby fan and have had to live with us developing and losing half the england squad.....Think id implode if the same was happenning at Liverpool. The owners seem switched onto me though rather than in for a swindle.....Just look at how the website has developed over the summer for the tour and such..They are deffinately doing the right things.
