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Rio Ferdinand Shows True Colours.

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Furcough 2hats, Jul 15, 2012.

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  1. Furcough 2hats

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    And repeat.......
    I won't repeat again, either take it on board or **** off and stop stalking me, weirdo.
     
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  2. BillyBobTaunton

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    If we all 'agree on that', then why are you suggesting that Rio meant it to mean Cole was being fake? That implication is not offensive whatsoever, yet you have been banging on and on about this supposed meaning!

    You are fake is not offensive...
    You are betraying your race is offensive...and 'notable' black people have said as such, it is loaded with discrimination and can be seen as being racist, not my words, the words of Carlisle and Amak..(basketball player)!

    So, which one is it? <ok>
     
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  3. Purley

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    This thread...
     
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  4. Furcough 2hats

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    :emoticon-0140-rofl:







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    LOL <laugh>
     
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  6. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    Don't think it's just Chelsea fans who'd love to see Rio mixed a bottle.
     
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  7. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    Originally Posted by Purley
    This thread...



    Being somewhat naive, is that a tranny or does she have an emerging turtle's head?
     
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  8. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    "Negro in English" How is the word negro in itself racist? I can see all the medical textbooks having to be changed to describe someone as non-Asian, non Caucasian, non-Oriental, non-Pacific-islander, non-Aboriginal, non-Arab, ......
     
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    The Oxford Dictionary don't mention racism when describing the word.

    http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/Negro?q=Negro
     
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    Personally I don't think it is racist. It's racially offensive, as you are identifying someone by their skin colour, and even more offensive if you are having an argument with them. But it doesn't carry any negative connotations about the race as a whole. I think racism is cheapened by the people (usually the media) who jump on any word with potential race connotations and scream racism. It makes it seem like the biggest problem with racism in society is how footballers talk, which distracts from the ongoing racism in many areas.

    That said, even if it isn't racist, using racially offensive language on the football pitch, particularly during an argument with an opposing player, is still not acceptable imo.
     
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  11. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    Are you saying calling a person black is not racist?
     
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  12. Furcough 2hats

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    What is wrong with me? Look, I was very patient and tolerant towards you in our first few exchanges. I politely and precisely explained my thoughts on what the 'choc ice' term meant and why I feel it is a racial slur, you even partially agreed in your own confused way, here are some of the statements you've made....
    Ring any bells?

    Many people agree with me in regards to the meaning of the slang in the context it was used, some don't. But I'm not going to stalk those who disagree with me and start hurling childish insults at them..... OK, sometimes I retaliate, but I never draw first blood.
    You proposed a bet on your terms and called me a chicken for declining, however when I tried to make the bet fair you totally ignored my proposal and insisted the bet should be on your terms. Seriously, give up.
    Here's some good advice to save you looking like a twat, again...Just think about the possible consequences before you start a virtual fight you can't win, you embarrass yourself and the board you represent. That's enough dramatics for now, let me bid you farewell.

    PS...This thread has run it's course as far we're concerned. I assume the majority of United fans are also sick of the sight of it. I'm not going to reply to you again in this thread, so be my guest....Have the last word.
     
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  13. Swarbs

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    No. It's a fact. Let's try and explain again:

    Ashley Cole is black. Not at all racist, just a fact.

    Ashley Cole is a money grabbing, sulky black twat. Not racist, but racially offensive. It's clearly directed at Ashley, and imo is no more offensive to black people as a whole as it is to twats or sulky people. Still not something that should be said in public, or on a football field, due to the racial connotations and the potential for offence.

    Ashely Cole is black and is therefore (insert negative trait here). Racist as you are implying that being black is somehow negative or worse than other races.

    I kicked Ashley Cole because he is black. Also racist, as you are implying that his race is the reason you kicked him, and therefore his race influences how you treat him.

    That's my opinion on it all anyway. <ok>
     
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  14. Furcough 2hats

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    I didn't defend Terry because he was white=Racist by your own logic, and rightly so.

    If Cole had sided with Ferdinand solely because of colour instead of siding with Terry believing him to be innocent, that's racist. But that's how the person who aimed the 'choc ice' insult at Cole meant it. That's how I interpret the tweet and the endorsement of it.

    Ferdinand should make a statement admitting that endorsing/defending the tweet was foolish,imo.
     
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    I think you are nit picking and on dodgy ground IMO. It is all about context and what you intended.


    Saying someone is black is obviously not racist nor racially offensive: agreed.

    But just because you are picking on an individual does NOT mean you are not being racist. If you say: all black people should treated worse than whites, that's an extreme example of racism (common in south africa during apartheid not so long ago). If you walk into a surgery and say to a black woman receptionist: you are a useless good-for-nothing black: is this racist or racially offensive?

    That is why I believe that Suarez was more than racially offensive. He is a nasty character who has no place in modern Britain.
     
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  16. BillyBobTaunton

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    Hahahahahahaha, your moral compass is ****ed up mate! Should he be deported? <ok>
     
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  17. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    "No. It's a fact. Let's try and explain again:"

    I KNOW saying someone is black is not racist, I was being facetious towards Shwan's ludicrous assumption that the word negro is, on its own, racist.
     
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    "That is why I believe that Suarez was more than racially offensive."

    So was Evra being more racially offensive when he specifically abused Suarez, called him a South American immigrant and told him to **** his whore sister; or was it when he labelled several of the black Chelsea players 'niggas'?
     
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    It all boils down to intent I.E Telling someone &#8220;go forth and multiply&#8221; when you mean &#8220;**** off&#8221;
    Just because you sugar coat it doesn&#8217;t make it less offensive
     
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  20. Christiansmith

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    I am glad that he got what he deserved. He may try to restore his "good" name but he will be wasting his time. He will always have this punishment and awful reputation round his neck <ok>
     
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