Yes from me (nothing over £8 mill tho) we desperately need goals and Dempsey would get them for us. Just out of interest Mito how many of his goals last year were pens or free kicks because I thought Danny M used to take the majority of Fulhams and I know Riise took a fair few free kicks last year as well?
Also, our current squad has a lot of young player and we are a little short on experienced players. Dempsey adds experience
I say yes. The fee won't matter, he'll shift a lot of shirts. He's a good player, better than Kuyt or Maxi were, and will improve the side.
he's got 33 assists so far as i can tell in his fulham career. in looking at differing sauces i come up with 6 assists last year. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/39928/clinton-dempsey?cc=5739 http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/premiership-set-piece-takers/ this shows dempsey took some pens and frees http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egdgpmtC5eE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8PEYvu07VU all in all i think the addition of more stats can only add to the man in the streets gut reaction tot he transfer. is he worth it and do you want him.
Yes from me. Right place at the right time sort of player...gets into the box from midfield. **** you all I like who I want!
I like him too what does Kitt think though that's the big question? Thanks for the stats btw lads....didn't think he took many pens and if he came and got us double figures in the goals column and a few assists then he'll be a good buy. Fulham apparently claiming no bid even received though so makes me wonder how the hell the NESV website had him down as signed already
I think Dempsey is similar to Kuyt but with more technical ability. Hard working, good technique, assists and goals. If we can get him for about £5-7m, then it will be decent business. I can't see us splashing out on individual players, no matter how good they are. I think I read a quote from Rodgers about not spending too much on a single player as it can create pressure and put them and the club under serious scrutiny (i.e. Carroll, Henderson, Downing). Hopefully this season we can fill the pages of newspapers with praise rather than ridicule.
I agree with most, would be a useful player and chips in with goals, but not for £9-10m. Although considering what we've paid for others I guess it isn't that bad lol.
LOL! Seriously, though, I like Dempsey as a player. Keeps his head down, if not his elbows, and always puts a good shift in - a bit like Cahill does at Everton. A couple of years back I really wanted us to sign him, so I don't actually have any beef with Clint. My main concern is the price. It's fair to say we've been ass-reamed in the transfer market in recent times, and I'd like us to shake off our soft touch touch tag and bring in some quality players for reasonable prices. It's better than some of the deals that we've brokered, but still too high IMO.
I seriously feel like I'm kicking a puppy every time I respond to you but you do repeat these myths, false correlations and downright BS so often. Your contention is flawed even before you start. Ask ten rival fans about Liverpool and how genuine an answer do you think you'd get? How informed? How much analysis have they put in? Ask ten guys in the street who are neutral, don't even watch much football but see the sports news and the highlights, what they think of zonal defending and they'll regurgitate something Andy Gray or one of those dinosaurs from the 70s who never played zonal in his life said in a commentary. Ask Pepe Reina what he thinks of zonal and the three Golden Gloves on his mantlepiece and you'll get an answer which makes you feel a right muppet. Again. Ask ten Liverpool fans what they thought of £5m for Lucas in 2007 and what they think of Lucas now and you'll get ten guys, including my dad and his old mate, who regretted selling Lucas in 2008. Unless one of them in me, then you'll have nine regretting it and one very smug dude looking at you as if to say, "You'd have sold him too, you kneejerking muppet." Ask ten guys in the street how much Rafa spent and they'll say, "Over £200m." Ask them where Tom Hicks got over £200m from and they'll stare blankly into space. Ask ten guys in the street what Alonso was worth and they'll say £25m. Ask them why we only got one bid of £12m the season before he left and again with the staring. For a team with many Comolli players still there Spurs must be over-achieving. Redknapp didn't want him getting the credit but it took Daniel Levy to spot Van Der Vaart's potential. Redknapp: "I dunno where I'm gonna play 'im." If Comolli gets the blame for paying £35m for Carroll [in an end-of-window transfer emergency] then he should get the credit for offloading Torres for £50m. And FSG should take the blame for giving DC the money to spend. But golly gee, that was £15m profit to put towards Suarez at 22m, which looks like a ****ing steal now. Well spotted, DC. Men in the street just saw a mean, cheating foreigner who spoiled the World Cup for Ghana. Considering FSG got the club and the squad assets cheap that profit was worth even more. Ask the man in the street about that and he'll look at you like you asked him to speak Cantonese. I dunno if DoFs are a great idea or not but I'm not dumb enough to dump it all on DC's desk. The best managers sign 50% flops at best. You don't decide whether a player is a flop after one season. Well, you do but sensible managers don't. The man in the street does because hey, it's just a video game, right? And for a freebie fourth striker Voronin's record before coming to us wasn't bad at all. His record at Hertha on loan was also quite tidy. He just didn't settle with us. Ask the man in the street what's up with that?
Would make sense if we signed him before we toured the states.....Would give us some goals from midfield...... But, there are younger better players out there, Could be an inspired signing, but i dont think it will, I was hoping for more.
This. Seriously MITO you write the most inane drivel at times. I don't post often, but I'd post infinitely more often if I responded to every **** post you make. The reason that the 'man in the street' is in the street instead of the dugout is because he doesn't have the same footballing knowledge as people in the know. EDIT: Also learn to type, Jesus Christ it takes me 3 times longer than necessary to read through the **** you post too.
muppet.. come on! honestly.. think about what you've said.. find 10 rival fans who'll share opinion. how well imformed.... have you read the theory i propose at all? 1. its the man in the street... that means average joe who hears something and think... nah that's not a good deal or conversely salivates over it. 2. let me give you three examples of rival fans... first brad jones. if you've got boro fans on laughing and saying they are delighted you bought him you have to get worried. second suarez, you can tell if you've hit gold when rival fans are out saying the guy is rubbish and sound like you kicked their cat, keyed their car and peed their couch such is their rage you've got him... and finally joe cole... you'll get all sorts of repsonses gvien the fact that the deal might work out or not so mixed opinion means you probably took a risk. 3. your contention the man in the street will just mouth off an andy gray one liner is also just plain insulting to the man on the street who after all WE ALL ARE. if you don't think i, you or the rest of us lot can't see full well something isn't right then why debate anything at all. I contend the man in the street 9 times out of 10 will have it right, day one on something. 4. you then branch off into 20/20 hindsight and I'm not asking for 20:20 hindsight... if you asked guys on lucas.... sorry but thats not my point at all. had you said the day the kid arrived from gremio what is the man in the street thinking they'd probably say not a lot, wonder what he's like and thats very fair... had the feed been 17mil like anderson then maybe they'd say something else. You want then to throw in what people thought every 6months about him until today... well that's an different theory about public opinion and pressure isn't it.... I've posed the question as a snap shot, 10mil for clint dempsey what do you think... most guys can say yes or no, or too much money etc... my postulation is that if i add up the feelings tomorrow i'm willing to bet if we look back next may the majority answer will actually be the right one. 5. now lets discuss comolli. why did FSG get shut then? cos he did a great job or cos he wanted to go home... the press conferences said he was not the right guy. that was all. Do you want to defend comolli based on what he did for spurs then? We wrongly sacked him or what? FSG took out kenny and comolli and it may well be down to who the signed and for how much. sorry but i think that is something the majority would agree with. 6. finally i think the man on the street.. or me if you want to put the finger on me can pretty much tell when a singing is mooted whether or not they'll work. I think if you want to give 3 years to figure something out fine but i reckon most guys can form a good opinion day one and be fairly accurate... thus by asking as many "men on the street" as possible you can have a good sample size to gain more confidence in the prediction. the point is if you ask 10 guys and they say oh god that's way too much or, wow great deal or not sure then why can't the scouting department at lfc get it right... cos it seems to me Newcastle are getting it far more right than we are... for example. I promise you i thought degen ,voronin, jova, carroll, coruch, pennent, bellamy (round one) were all bad deals and they proved to be so, conversely we all salivated over torres and suarez and they proved great. I wondered about cole's injury reocrd, maxi's legs, and so forth. It works. just like i bet if i asked if borini was a good deal the majority of fans would say at 11mil ok lets see what he's like. the thing is muppet... do you think at 10mil dempsey is a good or bad buy?
fine be that way about it.. your opinion. some people can just express an opinion and see how the things goes and some people just have a vitriolic reaction. As for spelling.. go take a flying F!
Interesting concept, but your memory is a bit off. I recall Aqua, Carroll and Downing all greeted by general enthusiasm, when purchased. The mentally challenged man in the street did not see the value in signing an injured player in Aqua, but the fact that he has had a good injury record (to a point) since he left Roma, does back-up his argument that his old club kept making a mess of his treatment and training. Yes, there was much baulking at the money paid for these players, but I recall overall positivity from the man on the street. However, I don't support your concept. The day we run the club, based on the opinions of the moaning great unwashed, is the day we circle the drain. Claiming "I told you so" because you can identify that certain elements moan about every last transfer, unless we bought Messi, is not an acid test on the value of a prospective purchase. The man on the street knows nothing. Championship Manager is to real management as Microsoft Flight Simulator is to making me qualified to land a 747 at Chicago International Airport. Most supporters make their purchasing recommendations based on a 2 minute YouTube video with ****ty music. And then only if they are a goal scorer. NO MITO, I'll leave it to the professionals, and given the failure rate of signing at all clubs, there is still an aspect of pure luck with all transfers, claiming a ****-kicker off the street can somehow weed out all doubt is more than a bit silly.
Okay maybe I was a bit harsh. But you're drastically oversimplifying the process that goes on behind the scenes with transfers. I imagine there is a hell of a lot of thought that goes into potential targets, along with the reports of a team of professional scouts. Managers don't simply watch a Youtube video, or have a chat with a mate down the pub then splash money out. I think you are really underestimating the thought that goes into every single transfer, and while some of them don't seem logical to you, there are a team of people who make a living in football who believe it to be the right call. I'd prefer put my backing with the professionals as opposed to the average 'man on the street'.
