They were undersold. I read somewhere that when we took out the mortgage on the stadium the lenders insisted that we took out very long term sponsorship deals as "insurance" that we would have a secure revenue stream. Since then, those sponsorships have become more valuable but we have been locked into the existing deals. Not sure if that is true, an excuse or a bit of both. Either way, renegotiating them is a step in the right direction.
I remember reading that we were that desperate for money that we signed the first deal that came along
So far they've done nothing about the Etihad stadium naming rights deal, depsite saying they would, so that doesn't give any immediate confidence in FPP. I'm not a cynic, but you've got to hope for better than that if it's going to really address the issue of unfair advantage gained by unregulated millions.
Should we sell the naming rights to the changing rooms or something, make some extra cash on the side, without upsetting the FFP regulations?
Are you serious. Every football fan in the world knows what the Forbes Valuation list is and it is that. It is a simple list of the value of clubs if they were looking to be sold today. Its what owners and prospective buyers look at first to get an idea of current trrading price. It hs absolutely no link, refelction or relation to how rich a club is in terms of being able to invest in playing staff etc. There is a seperate list for that which name escapes me right now. Forbes tells you how much a club would cost to buy at this current time. That is all.
FFP is a joke. City and Chavski officials have already let slip it is not a concer and it is easy to get round and UEFA won't enforce it fully to the top teams as they NEED them in their competitions to kkep its value.
Please read the thread and you will see that gunner and I talked through this. If you read the article you will see that the author himself indicates that the valuation is based on the revenue earning potential of the franchises. Saying that the valuation is "How much it would take to buy Arsenal" is slightly misleading as it does not take into account how many competing buyers there would be and what margin of profit a buyer would expect. The price Usmanov is willing to pay to obtain Arsenal might have no bearing on the earning potential of the club. And the price Kronke is willing to take in order to part with Arsenal, might be far higher than that even. When you value a business, the majority of the value of the business is its ability to generate revenue and this is also an indication of how much revenue it will have to spend. This provides an indication of "How rich the club is". I dont think the actual figure is that significant, but the rankings are.
Agreed 100%, that is the only way the FFP could work. However, UEFA haven't got the bollocks to implement such a rule.
The figure for Arsenal is based purely on the share price.There are approx 60,000 Arsenal shares.The shares have recently been trading at approx £14,500 each.14,500 X 60,000 gives you a figure of 870,000,000.
With huge Sponsorship deals coming up for renewal, you would have thought that the time to invest in that one extra special player who will propel the club forward to win a trophy or two would be now. Win a trophy, the Sponsorship deals become much more valuable, and you make the money back you spent on that player - essentially becoming more competitive for free. But instead the best players at the Club want to leave because the Club is NOT investing in those players, and as such, the appeal of the Club goes down, and the deals become less valuable. Way to go there guys...way to go.
Am sure we was 7th last year now we are 10th it means s**t to me s**t to you s**t to anyone who not buying Arsenal I see clubs around us buying good players year in year out keeping there good players that's what I really care about!
And we seem to forget that in football the teams that spend the most money spend usually win titles in the 70s Liverpool done it with Littlewoods money, the 70s Juventus, 80s Milan with real Madrid, the 90s man United obversely there occasions like Everton in their early 80s we have got to realise in the 80s before were millionaires today we have billionaires monies will be different you're not dealing with Littlewoods pools money any more we dealing with lottery money in such a bigger scale.
That is a direct contridiction of what the guy who wrote the article for Forbes said. Edit: The current price is 16,000 pounds. The enterprise value is 1.13bn, which is capitalization less net debt, which is what a lot of people are talking about. Forbes were NOT looking at this, they were trying to come up with a "true value" of a franchise, based on its revenue earning potential.
