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Rio Ferdinand Shows True Colours.

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  1. Romans advisor

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    The point re spitting in someone's face was on a scale of insults in my view spitting in another's face is surpassed by nothing , In Caribbean culture it's topped by calling someone a Coconut and all it's variations.
     
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    So is it not the same with the choc ice? It seems to me to be akin to referring to someone as a "white supremacist" or "Klansman". Both of those would clearly imply you were of a certain race, and held specific views towards another race. Would you say someone who used either of those terms was racist?
     
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    So why is it insulting to say someone is white inside?
    What's wrong with being white inside?

    If a black man is insulted by accusations of acting/thinking like a white person then they must think white people are somehow different in their way of thinking.
    I stand by my original assessment and respectfully disagree with yours, it is a racial slur in my opinion.
    We are all products of our environment and Rio and Ashley are English with similar upbringings, colour, inside or out shouldn't be the subject of ridicule.
     
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    It is racist and Rio should be sacked
     
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    There doesn't have to be something wrong with it for it to be insulting.

    Some Scotsmen get very insulted when foreigners (usually Americans) mistake them for being English. Doesn't mean they are racist against the English. When my sister was younger she had her hair cut short and got very insulted whenever anyone mistook her for a boy. Does that make her a sexist? And have you tried calling a Native American an Indian? Or would their offended reaction mean they must be racist towards Indians?

    It all depends on your cultural heritage. If you are very proud of your culture and what it stands for, you could be very insulted by someone claiming you are abandoning your culture and following the norms of a different one, even if you don't see that other culture as being in any way negative.
     
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    Would calling someone a white supremacist" or "Klansman indicate they had forgotten their heritage ? Nope, I guess some would say the dead opposite .......But let’s turn it around. Would a white supremacist" or "Klansman feel insulted if told by one of their “club” that they acted like/wished they were black.....You can bet your bollocks they would.
    I say again I don't perceive Rio's agreement that Cole was a choc ice as racist even if he had said/tweeted it himself. But it is an insult and he knows it.
     
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  7. Furcough 2hats

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    But Rio endorsed the 'Choc ice' tweet because Cole didn't side with another black man, but instead defended a white man..
    It's all about the context.
     
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    "Racism is like the crime of murder"

    Doubtless why Doreen Lawrence felt compelled to attend the trial of one white, arrogant, rich gobsh!te who who traded insults with one black, arrogant, rich, gobshite.
     
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    I respect all opinions and ours differ ......But just so you know .....................you're wrong !!<laugh>
     
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    Oh well, at least I'm not the only one who is "wrong"...Opinion is split down the middle on this subject and I'm in better company with those who share mine.
    So there:tongue:
     
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    Shwan has a wing man <laugh>
     
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    Completely agree with you there. Tho of course the insult part is all about the context - some people will take it as an insult and some won't. That, for me, is the main reason Rio's tweet is nowhere near as serious as the Suarez incident and Terry's alleged comments. Both Suarez and Terry said their pieces in the middle of a heated argument with an opponent who was likely trading insults with them. At that point, imo, bringing race into it does cross the line. But that's a whole other can of worms ;)

    And as I said before, calling someone a white supremacist would be because they were a white person who believed they were superior to other races. So are all those Nick Griffin bashers actually racist?
     
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    Shwan has an obsessed stalker<ok>
     
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    My tin opener is blunt now!.So therefore it's farewell from moi, Golf day tomorrow so need by pillow. cheers lads.
     
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    The laughing is all at you my friend :emoticon-0172-mooni
     
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  16. Furcough 2hats

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    Are they? ....Who else called me a chicken? Have you forgot your meds again? All I've noticed is a Chelsea fan taking the piss out of you, but you're too thick to realise.
    I'm not taking your ******ed bet because I only bet on stuff I have a chance of winning.
    Cole won't make a big deal of it so there won't be a charge, that doesn't mean the term hasn't got racial undertones......
    But I'm still willing to negotiate and take you up on a bet I can't win if you can convincingly explain why 'choc ice' means fake...Deal?
     
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    Back to the subject...I am of the same ethnicity as Ferdinand, and I find his agreement and his subsequent laughing, to be hugely offensive to someone of my own race!

    Are you saying that I should not be offended? Are you saying it is all okay and should be laughed off? <ok>
     
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    You got me, I'm so busted.

    Phone your village to let them know you're safe, they must be missing you.
     
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    And repeat.......
     
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