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Who would train your horse???

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Sir Barney Chuckles, Jul 17, 2012.

  1. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    Here are a couple of scenarios for the old membership to ponder upon:
    (i) you suddenly have the funds and purchase an outstanding prospect who furthermore is magnificently bred. Any trainer would be delighted to tutor this steed so who do you ask to train the horse??? and,
    (ii) you make a much more modest purchase (say 25,000 guineas) who comes from a much humbler family. None of the top trainers would be interested in taking this one in but who do you ask to train the horse from the ‘lower ranks’???

    My answers to these posers would be:

    Flat
    (i) Sir Henry, (ii) Clive Cox

    NH
    (i) the forum’s favourite, Mr Henderson, (ii) Tom Symonds
     
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  2. rainbowview

    rainbowview Well-Known Member

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    Flat

    Sir Henry Cecil - David O'Meara

    NH

    Willie Mullins - Tim Vaughan
     
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  3. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member
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    I don't know about NH but If I had a potentially exceptional filly I would send it to Henry Cecil. If it was a colt, either the same or Michael Stoute. In either case I would insist on it having a maximum of one race as a 2yo, late in the season on decent ground with instructions to "look after it". Lightly race as a 3yo and then attack the KG, GV and Arc as 4yos.
     
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  4. Cyclonic

    Cyclonic Well Hung Member

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    Bart Cummings. <laugh>
     
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  5. King Shergar

    King Shergar Well-Known Member

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    Flat*

    John Gosden - Hughie Morrison*

    Jumps*

    Nicky Henderson - Nick Williams*:biggrin:*
     
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  6. SwanHills

    SwanHills Well-Known Member

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    Flat:
    (i) Sir Henry Cecil...(ii) Tim Vaughan

    Jumps:
    (i) Philip Hobbs.......(ii) Tim Vaughan


    (P.S. - Cyc: Yep, Bart would do well, especially over the sticks....<whistle>).
     
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  7. Cyclonic

    Cyclonic Well Hung Member

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    If only AOB would pick up the phone when in trouble instead of trying to just struggle through. <laugh>
     
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  8. PNkt

    PNkt Well-Known Member

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    Sir Henry for a nice filly with a middle distance pedigree
    Richard Hannon for a cheap 2yo - don't forget the Hannon/Doyle team bought Canford Cliffs and Dick Turpin very cheaply.

    Jumps
    Alan King - trained by the maestro
    Nick Williams - bonkers, but lovely bloke and very enthusiastic!
     
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  9. Quelesprit

    Quelesprit New Member

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    NH

    Willie Mullins and Honeyball with a good bumper mare (you could get a belter for £25k)
     
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  10. SwanHills

    SwanHills Well-Known Member

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    Cyc: He's always on the bloody fern, and is rarely in trouble as he always has his sunglasses on...<laugh>
     
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  11. Bluesky9

    Bluesky9 Philosopher

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    Good Question Sir Barney

    Sir Henry Cecil

    James Fanshawe

    I was not sure where Roger Varien would fall between these two catagories as is no really a big trainer yet not really small either, i do rate him however a very exciting trainer who will one day be a Cecil or Stoute.
     
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  12. Ardent1965

    Ardent1965 Well-Known Member

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    If this Euromillionns ticket pops - Its Cecil and Henderson no doubts.
     
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  13. Bluesky9

    Bluesky9 Philosopher

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    Your question raises many further questions Sir Barney as it would really depend upon the horse. For instance an early maturing two year old i would send to Richard Hannon to farm a few good races before the big guns have theirs ready. I well made Filly to Sir Henry for the oaks. A Group three expected stayer to Luca Cumani to win the Ebor handicap with whilst the most difficult is a 100 rated horse in training bought to land a touch, who could get it's mark down quickest and attracting least speculation, Sir Mark Prescott perhaps, David Baron up north D.O'Meara but then ithought it has to be Saed Bin Suroor as he can get a good horse performing under it's potential like no other, although he does seemingly forget the last part and target them at handicaps afterwards as usually they just retire.
     
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  14. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor
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    Nice thread Sir Barney and I'll just opt for NH trainers if I may:

    1. Nicky Henderson, particularly in the horses novice season. The number of novice hurdle winners the yard churns out year after year is incredible and the vast majority hurdle superbly. For me there is no better handler of a novice hurdler in the game. Depending on breeding and stature it would then be a tilt at the top graded hurdle races or off novice chasing. I have had my doubts about whether Henderson handles his chasers as well as his hurdlers but he certainly did a fine job last season with Sprinter Sacre and Riverside Theatre. A win at the Festival would be the icing on the cake.

    2. Lucinda Russell. After the tragic events surrounding Brindisi Breeze and Campbell Gillies I would certainly want to support the very likeable and professional Lucinda Russell by placing a horse in her care. She is one of the hardest workers in the game and certainly would get the best out of the horse.
     
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  15. Dexter

    Dexter Well-Known Member

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    My goodness...so many to choose from but the best trainer in world will do me;..He isn't a serial criminal so can travel with his horses and doesn't lie with £800 a night whores...who knows,if he wasn't Irish he might even have been knighted and had a big gushing groupie on here...

    Dermot Weld/Sylvester Kirk or Andrew Oliver

    Nicky Henderson(really nice guy who,as SBC often says,can detect an arrogant fool very quickly)Never heard anyone within the game of any consequence say a bad word against him.Gentleman/Jessica Harrington,good friend of Sir Nicky's who stays with him when at the Festival...Experts in their field and genuinely lovely people.

    All about opinions!
     
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  16. Deleted 1

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    Flat: 1) Aidan O Brien 2) Kevin Ryan

    National hunt 1) Donald McCain 2) The good Dr Newlands
     
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  17. Istabraq

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    Flat: Sir Henry Cecil/John Gosden
    NH: Paul Nicholls... Espcially if I was after Gold Cup glory
     
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  18. NamNed

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    Decent topic this!

    1) Flat - Barney Curley - Imagine the fun!

    2) Jumps - Donald McCain - Hugely talented, and is a really likeable guy and has a superb team!
     
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  19. SaveTheHumans

    SaveTheHumans Well-Known Member

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    Flat - John Oxx.

    Jumps - Willie Mullins.
     
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