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John Terry - Not Guilty

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Jimmy Squarefoot, Jul 13, 2012.

  1. Diadora Barnes storm

    Diadora Barnes storm Member

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    Long and the short of it is, Suarez although provoked still shouldnt have used the terms he did. He was slapped with an 8 match ban, which is fine but as he shouldnt have used those terms (which he admitted he did) All i want is to see Terry punished for the same length of time or at the very least the FA investigating and charging on the same basis that Suarez was.

    I wont hold my breath as the problem lies in the fact Suarez actually admitted saying certain terms, where as Terry although admitting he used the terms, is saying he was questioning what he thought Anton said to him, which Anton denies even saying on the pitch, on that basis considering Suarez was charged I dont see how Terry cannot be charged by the FA.
     
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  2. KingEric07.

    KingEric07. cape wearing twat

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    I pretty much agree with this <ok>

    I just hope the FA don't get the chance to hide behind the 'legal' finding as in 'we can't do anything as he has already be found not guilty in a court of law'.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    actually suarez only admitted saying one owrd, negro in spanish meaning black... terry admitted saying that and the C word etc. there is direct viedo evidence, not of him saying god what you think i called you a... but him spitting the words with hatred at ferdinand.

    The FA can do what they like the Spanish speaking world now view England as a racist country for the attack that they did on suarez in comparison to how protected terry is. all english clubs suffer as a result... i hope that next time a fifa vote comes round people realize the FA have a big store of animosity out there even if you leave out fifa's evident corruption.
     
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  4. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    On that basis then, when does the investigation into Rio's use of the phrase 'choc-ice' begin?
     
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  5. KingEric07.

    KingEric07. cape wearing twat

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    On what basis ? I'm not sure who you are aiming the question at ?
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    i believe a certain politician said something similar on tiwtter and got pulled up on it.

    In short if someone complains the the police (and it can be any member of the public) then rio will be investigated. if nobody complains then he won't be.

    Its up to you if you feel so strongly to complain.
     
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  7. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Clarke Carlisle.

    A prick who was on the gravy train when Suarez refused to shake Evra's hand.

    He now says its ok for black players to refuse to shake JT's hand if they dont want to.

    FOOTBALLClarke Carlisle insists that black players should be free not to shake hands with John Terry despite the Chelsea defender being cleared of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand last season.
    "My advice would be to shake his hand," the Professional Footballers' Association chairman and former Burnley and Leeds defender told BBC Radio 5 live.
    "But you can't force somebody to shake another man's hand. Every man who's there has his own choice and free will, and if he decides not to then that's entirely up to him."


    Considering he's on the Management Committee of the PFA shouldn't he know that refusing to shake a fellow professional's hand is against FA policy and constitutes a charge of bringing the game into disrepute.


    Or does that rule only apply to Uruguayans?
     
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  8. KingEric07.

    KingEric07. cape wearing twat

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    Was Suarez charged for / with refusing to shake Evras hand ?
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    nope.. just got roundly condemned etc..

    anyway it was evra who did the refusing thats what the youtube clips show...

    also if evra attacked ferdinand immediately after the handshake does this make him a choc-ice also..... why is everyone against rio these days..
     
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  10. KingEric07.

    KingEric07. cape wearing twat

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    I don't really like Choc Ices. <ok>

    So basically what Page is asking is ****e then with the 'does this rule only apply to Uruguyans' as Suarez wasn't even charged for it <laugh>
     
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  11. Redbrynner

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    And with the majority of world class players coming from the Spanish Speaking world, (or portuguese) this could influence alot of players on whether to come to the premiership or not..Poor handling by the FA.
     
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  12. KingEric07.

    KingEric07. cape wearing twat

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    Every cloud and all that...

    We would have avoided players like Bebe and Anderson and you would have avoided players like that **** Spanish winger Riera (sp).

    Look on the bright side - keep up the good work FA <ok>
     
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  13. Redbrynner

    Redbrynner Well-Known Member

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    Lol, but we wont have anymore 'next Messis' coming to our clubs?
     
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  14. BillyBobTaunton

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    If every player has the right to choose whether or not to shake hands with another player, why did everybody condemn Suarez?

    Surely he had the same right (whether we believe his motives or not) to refuse to shake Evra's hand...yet didn't Fergie say that he should never play for Liverpool again after his non-handshake?

    So according to the PFA, Fergie was out of order with his rant after handshake gate!

    And so, what is it with Fergie and his obsession with Suarez? After the Liverpool game he was on camera being asked about United's performance and instead ranted on about Suarez' diving during that particular game (even though it has since been seen that Suarez did not dive once during that game)!! Then we had the whole Evra thing, when the first persion to mention the word '******' was Fergie, barging into the referee's room to tell them '******' had been said and even getting the ref's assistant to write the word '******' down on a piece of paper as some sort of record!!! Then we have him saying he was a disgrace to the club and should never play for them again after his non-handshake, even though the PFA have said that every player has the right to refuse a handshake!

    So what is it with Fergie and his obvious problem with Suarez, he seems totally obsessed with him! And his lies, false accusations and attempts to discredit Suarez and Liverpool because the nasty little Uruguayan refused to shake his own brave player's hand make it seem that Fergie is out of control when it comes to Suarez, he cannot help but lie and make things up when Suarez is involved, but why?

    Is Fergie letting his focus on Suarez get the better of him? <ok>
     
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  15. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    There is so much confusion - who to charge? Rio? Anton? Terry? And the consequences of any action taken: breakaway unions for black players, possible lawsuits from Terry, condemnation from Lord ousely and Clark Carlisle (and doubtless Doreen Lawrence too).

    What is they way forward? What one action can the FA take to pacify black action groups, remain legal in their treatment of Terry, and be consistent with previous verdicts and sanctions?

    Only one thing can unite the country and people of all races - prosecute Luis Suarez again.

    Well, there's as much evidence this time as there was the last...<whistle>
     
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  16. BCR

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    Well here we go again...

    "It was so hard what happened to me," Suarez told Uruguayan TV station RR Gol. "I don't show my emotions in the field, you know, but outside I do it. I cried a lot with all the Evra stuff.

    "The trial week was so complicated for me. My wife and I cried a lot during that week. That's when I realised who were the people who really support me and who were the people who were with me because of their personal interest.

    "People at the club are sure that it was a way that Man United used to put me out of the team and stop Liverpool. But in England, Man United has this political power, and you have to respect that and shut your mouth.

    "I had to go to Manchester in a taxi for the trial. I got up at seven in the morning and I came home at nine at night. I was exhausted, I was so tired. I wanted to cry, and kick all the things around me.

    "I came home and I wanted to do all that, but I couldn't because my daughter was at home. There were really complicated days, and then things became harder after the punishment."

    Suarez returned to Old Trafford following his ban, and promised the club he would shake Evra's hand before the match. Liverpool issued a statement saying their striker had "let the club down" after vision of him pulling his hand away from Evra's surfaced, but the striker insists the incident is part of an ongoing conspiracy against him.

    "Before the match against Man United, I promised my wife, the manager and the directors that I was going to shake my hand with Evra," said Suarez.

    "Why not, I thought, because I had no problems with him. I had been punished because of him, but I had no problems with shaking hands. But I was not forced to greet him. In fact, there was the possibility that neither Man United nor Liverpool's players would shake hands, as it had happened with Queens Park Rangers and Chelsea.

    "But I thought why not, if my punishment was over. I had no problems with Evra. It was only a handshake and I was OK with that.

    "But it was a misunderstanding, what happened between me and Evra at Old Trafford. In fact, I think it was all arranged against me again, as it had happened with the punishment.

    "The media in England showed the moment when I passed in front of him, but they didn't see that he had his hand low before. Only the media in Uruguay but also in Spain showed that I wanted to shake his hand."
     
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  17. RobofLeeds

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    **** me ! Another scouse expert and this one has now canvassed the entire "Spanish speaking world " :shocked:
     
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  18. KingEric07.

    KingEric07. cape wearing twat

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    <laugh> This dickhead should really learn when to shut up (not you Bluff) <laugh>
     
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  19. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Luis Suarez = Legend
     
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  20. Fixed...<ok>


    <whistle>
     
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