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Who would you suggest we sign for the left wing position?

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  1. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    I think we could do with a quality winger, with pace, and one that can cut in from the left and shoot with his right. Marv is a good player, and I can see him playing on the LW, but we need more wingers. After Marv and HBA, we have no real quality on the wings, we could do with some more. We have Ferguson, yes, and I think he'll get game time, but still, two quality wingers, and one youngun trying to get into the ranks, isn't enough for the amount of games we have. I'm still hoping Obertan will develop. But at the end of the day, I think we could do with another option on the wings. And by the interest in Hoilett we supposedly had, I think Pards would be looking for another winger also. We were once strongly linked with that winger from the dutch league. The young black kid. Can't remember his name. Anyway...

    Hoilett would have been perfect, but he's a money grabbing little ****, so he can **** off.

    - Scott Sinclair? 23 years old. Quick, skillful player, scores a decent amount of goals, has gotten used to a similar style to ours, passing. Albeit not as quality as ours, and less attacking, but still, he's grown into a footballing style. I doubt he'll be on big wages.

    - Nathan Dyer? Another very quick and skillful player. Again, only 24, and probably not on high wages.

    - Victor Moses? Don't see why were not in for this lad. He'd be great for us, and still only 21. There's interest from other clubs, but I think a bigger club like Chelsea wouldn't give him much time, considering the wing options they already have. I reckon he'd give a **** load of starts here, and Euro football, and a good wage. Plus he'd fit right into our playing system, our financial system, and our plan to bring more younguns in.

    - Walcott? He signed his last contract around 3-4 years ago, when he was still a kid, so I don't think he'd be on silly wages. He's slowly falling down the pack at Arsenal. Fans aren't as keen on him, and tend to look towards others and bringing new talent in. I think he could be good for our style, and coming into our club, with a fan base that will treat him well and encourage him, I think he could take the next big step in his career here. I think he's hit a dead end at Arsenal.

    Can you think of any others?
     
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    Georgie Wijnaldum for 9ME
     
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  4. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    He'd cost too much. A very hot property.
     
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    A useless little bit of info about Georgie Wijnaldum.

    Georginio Wijnaldum was born and raised in Rotterdam, South Holland. At the age of six his parents divorced and his mother moved to Amsterdam. Wijnaldum decided to stay in Rotterdam and moved in with his grandmother, where he lived the remaining part of his childhood.

    In Wijnaldum's youngest years he never showed interest in football. He never played with a ball or watched football on TV. His ambition was to become a gymnast or acrobat. This changed when Wijnaldum's nephew asked him to come to Sparta Rotterdam's opening day with him. Wijnaldum got invited to the Sparta Rotterdam youth academy and his love for football started to grow slowly.

    Wijnaldum has two younger brothers, Giliano and Rogerio. Giliano Wijnaldum is currently playing for AZ. He is also the nephew of on-loan Everton midfielder Royston Drenthe.
     
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  6. Jarramag88

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    Not a priority for me like. And me personally wouldn't drop Jonas.
     
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    Some canny wingers in the championship if your looking for squad players. Matt Phillips, Tom Ince and Wilfred Zaha are all young and talented.
     
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    Couldn't drop Jonas, much too important a player.
     
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    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    Why would bringing a winger in be dropping Jonas?

    Jonas is no longer a winger type player here, he's a defensive/holding midfield player, he plays at the back with Tiote.

    I'd no longer want to rely on Jonas in a big game for quality from the wing.

    Besides I'm sick of people thinking that anyone not being in the strongest 11 = being dropped!

    We're in Europe!!

    Why can't people see that 20+ players will get regular games now?
     
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    Your judging your opinion on the fact we will play 433 next season. Jonas is our left winger and has been since he signed. So in a 442, he would be the player dropped. If he is fit then for me, he plays.
     
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    You guys should sigh El Mohamedy.

    £8million plus HBA please, cheers.
     
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    Hhhmmmm, we'll think about it.






    Okay, we've thought about it, the answers no.
     
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    We play our best football in a 4-3-3 formation, and we get the best out of Cabaye and HBA, two vital players. When we switched back to 4-4-2, towards the end of the season, we didn't look as good.

    But, at the end of the day, It really doesn't matter what formation we play in what game. Jonas will not be playing every game, and we'll not be playing the same formation every game, so it depends totally on the situation.

    And regardless of what Jonas has done for the club in the past, and how hard he works, if someone comes along and can do a better job, or is better for the specific game, they should be played.

    We shouldn't play anyone out of sentimental value. It should be who's best for what role in a particular game. But I'm 110% sure Jonas will get a **** load of games.

    But saying "if he's fit, he's in for me" is silly. It's all about competition and proving worth. And by proving worth, I'm not talking about what they've done in the past, I'm talking about what they're doing in the training ground, showing the manager that they'd be best for the position, and as the season goes on, who deserves what place.
     
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    Awww,

    Gan on man!
     
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    Had a word with Pards about it but I'm afraid he won't budge on it.
     
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    I'm not going on sentiment. Jonas does for us what he has done in season in season out. He is a massive part of how we Play our game. No sentiment whatso ever involved in it. Marveaux is ready made to step in to a role on the left. We play our best football in a 433 yes, but to say jonas is a DM like tiote is wrong. If that's the case, what does that make cabaye, who plays the same position as jonas on the other flank in a 433.
    We could always do with more players, but to sign anyone with the required quality in the terms you are talking about, then whoever it is coming in to the club would be expecting to start. Like I said, we have options in those areas so for me, signing a Left winger is low on our list I priorities.
     
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  17. Nads

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    Tell him i'll lay on a bed at Nikki Beach and a young slag.

    That'll seal it <whistle>
     
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    For me, but what about Pards?
     
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    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    First off, yes I know it's not a priority to get a LW in.

    And secondly, Jonas was in the same sort of position as Tiote was.

    When we played our 4-3-3, it was like this -

    Ba----------Cisse------------HBA

    ------------Cabaye--------------

    ----Jonas------------Tiote---------

    Santon---Colo-----Willo-------Simpson

    --------------Krul-------------------

    We played the two holding/defensive mids, and played Cabaye in a role with a bit more freedom. And it worked. He had the freedom to create and attack.

    It's the same with Ben Arfa. Being a winger in a 4-3-3 is not quite the same as in a 4-4-2. In a 4-3-3, yes you need to put a defensive shift in, but you have the two defensive mids back to cover the back line if you need to go forward and attack.

    In a 4-4-2, you are the sole player covering the fullback, and quite often have to drop back when the fullback makes an overlapping run. In the 4-4-2, HBA was required to remain back more often, and has less freedom, which was why he was less effective. In a 4-3-3, he had more freedom, and was a lot more effective.

    It's technically not a 4-3-3 we were playing, it was a 4-2-1-3. Two holding mids, one attacking mid, and 3 forwards. But we just called it a 4-3-3.

    Sorry to be go into detail, but that's basically how it was playing out. And it worked for the best overall.

    Jonas was a left winger at the start of the season, but towards the end, he was a holding mid at the back with Tiote.
     
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    He can have double bubble on the slags!
     
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