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The Official Not606 Santander British GP Chat & Predictions

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by El_Bando, Jul 3, 2012.

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Who will be the diamond at the british GP?

Poll closed Jul 6, 2012.
  1. Alonso

    13.9%
  2. Webber

    8.3%
  3. Hamilton

    36.1%
  4. Vettel

    25.0%
  5. Rosberg

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Raikkonen

    2.8%
  7. Grosjean

    2.8%
  8. Button

    2.8%
  9. Perez

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Maldonado

    2.8%
  11. Di Resta

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Kobayashi

    2.8%
  13. Schumacher

    2.8%
  14. The Queen

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Other?

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Delete Me

    Delete Me Well-Known Member

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    And you always disagree with me, what's new?
     
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  2. StoneRosesRam

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    Maybe its Rosberg who needs to get his act together after being completely outdriven by his team mate for the last two races, i mean he was beaten by both Toro Rosso's at the weekend!
     
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  3. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Button 4 is a little harsh as Hamilton did the same in barcelona and got highly praised
     
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  4. StoneRosesRam

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    Hamilton started in 24th not 16th on a track that is notorious for having little overtaking and finished two places higher in Spain compared to Button at the weekend, and in that race he beat Button who had started over 10 places higher than him. While it was an improved performance from Button i was actually expecting both him and Hamilton to make more progress in the race, i think their poor placings on sunday was more down to the poor cars they were driving rather than a lack of skill on either drivers part
     
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  5. BrightLampShade

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    I rarely agree with the ratings, but as can be seen here we all disagree with each other so it's hardly surprising.

    I'm also surprised that now ones picked up that Vettel had a mild car issue in the race (looking at you Silver :p ). Something engine/clutch/gearbox related as he had to change to a certain torque map to protect what ever it was and then was told to keep the revs high when returning to the pits after the race.
    No idea how much it effected his race since Webber seemed to be having the better weekend even before the problems.
     
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  6. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    To be fair to Silver, he probably knows that we'd all berate him for making excuses for Seb's average performance if he brough it up ;)

    At least whatever it was he was able to manage it through the race. I imgaine their would have been some toys flying if he had been out of the 2nd race in a row with mechanical issues.
     
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  7. BrightLampShade

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    Autosport reasoning for some of the names brought up so far:

    Vettel: There was a lot good about Vettel's weekend: his impressive race pace after losing time in the Schumacher train in the first stint that almost carried him within striking distance of Alonso for one. But a scruffy qualifying lap while chasing pole and damaging his front wing by clipping Massa on the opening lap were the rough edges that cost him a shot at victory.

    Button: Qualifying was awful, although in mitigation he would have made it into Q2 but for yellow flags on his final two flying laps. Deserves credit for sticking at it in the race to nick a point, and was within two seconds of his strategy-hampered team-mate at the finish. Some positives but a load of negatives.

    Hamilton: Like his team-mate, found the McLaren ill-suited to intermediate rubber in qualifying. Drove well in the race to climb into the top six, but McLaren's decision to run him for only seven laps on the softs in his second stint hung him out to dry. Proved unable to halt the slide thereafter.

    Grosjean: Once again Grosjean was impressively rapid and his underlying speed was greater than his team-mate, as evidenced by his climb from the back to sixth – just seven seconds behind – by the finish. But there were mistakes: binning it at the entry to Club in qualifying, and damaging his front wing early in the race. Excusable given his level of experience, but mistakes nonetheless.

    Kobayashi: Had no chance on intermediate rubber in Q2 and had a pretty busy race. Never quite captured the incisiveness of his team-mate early in the race, but had he not mown down his pit-crew at his final stop after botching his entry, he would have ended the day with a clutch of points. A costly and dangerous blunder.

    Senna: Needed, and delivered, a decent weekend. Probably would have made Q3 but for yellow flags, and save for a spin in the race after dropping a wheel onto the artificial grass at Stowe acquitted himself well while battling with the likes of Hulkenberg and Button. The car could do better, but ninth was an acceptable return.

    Glock: Couldn't have done much more in qualifying with a Marussia that was evil-handling in the wet and can be forgiven for spinning at the end of his final Q1 lap. Did a damned good job in the race to finish – on merit – just 25 seconds behind Kovalainen. Proof that the team's first windtunnel-gestated upgrade is very much on the money.
     
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  8. EternalMSC

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    Maybe the 43 year old has upped his game against the youngen, now he is showing us how he won 7 World Championships.
     
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  9. Delete Me

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    I wouldn't know mate I haven't looked at the coverage since I came back from Silverstone.


    *Edit* (Watched Kravitz's report) Then he should get an 8/10 since he was having technical problems and vibrations at the front of the car which was no fault of his own.

    4.8 seconds behind Webber when getting stuck behind a Schumi train and having to face all that isn't too shabby in my opinion, roll on Hokenheim I say!
     
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  10. RoadRunner

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    Race edit is up. Music: Make My Day by New Device (who do a few of the songs for the race edits)
    P.S the music for Valencia: Fire In The House by Hard-Fi.
     
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  11. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    Are you worried that people will forget how many Championships he accrued EMSC? Whilst I do not make a point of counting the number of times you say it, it seems at least once per month. Much better to just speak about how he's doing don't you think? For instance, I agree he seems to have upped his game relative to Rosberg, who seems to be going backward. But how about leaving the Pleiades out, eh? It's very dull to keep repeating it like a stuck record.

    Here's a link which you might be able to use to make your point permanently without having to repeat it each month:
    PLEIADES.
     
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  12. Kyle?

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    I always assumed that there were only 6 stars in the pleiades cluster, as there's only 6 stars on the Subaru badge, and that was done in honour of the pleiades cluster?
     
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  13. cosicave

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    Well, they are commonly referred to as 'The Seven Sisters', but I'm prepared to believe at least one of them is an imposter…
    ;) As for Subaru: perhaps whoever was counting was wearing blinkers?
    - - -o0o- - -

    N.B. In fact, there are at least 1000 stars in the Pleiades, but only 14 of them are bright enough to see with the naked eye:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades
     
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  14. TomTom94

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    There's a reference to Schumacher's behaviour and certain fans' short-sightedness in that factoid somewhere...
     
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  15. allsaintchris.

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    So he's going to crack under the pressure of a closely fought seasan, ram Hamilton off the road and then try and take out Vettel in the last race but fail miserably, embarrassing himself by getting stuck in the gravel!?
     
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  16. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> Ha! I see what you mean. Wasn't my intention&#8230;
     
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  17. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    And your issue is what? I have a right to post what I want on here, so long as it doesn't cause offence.
    The anti-schumacher brigade, who like to mention the 3 or 4 races he overstepped the mark in his 20 year contribution to F1, and hold that against him for as long as it takes, you never complain about that...

    I am happy for Schumacher, even if he wins another race, I won't be surprised if there a group of people in denial about his performance as usual. Michael has shown us that his "never quit attitude" is still apparent in 2012 as it was between 1991 and 2006, that was the link I was making.

    If you don't like what you see ignore my posts, chill out man.
     
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  18. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    I am sorry, he is not Maldonado. Michael is pushing to get back into the top 10 after his team let him down, he is not whining but working hard with the team to make progress, and is doing well at the moment.

    Some drivers are out partying with 10 women with their faces splashed across the papers, not focused at the season at hand, and still whine to their engineers when they are in the car.

    Michael has determination, and that will do him good, let me tell you something:

    -Schumacher may be half the genius he once was, but he has more quality, pace and race craft than the drivers (kids) pissing about on track today.

    I hope no offence was caused.
    Thankyou.
     
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  19. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    EMSC: Take it easy!
    I thought one of the pictures of the Pleiades might have made a good avatar for you: 'Seven Stars' &#8211; and all that?

    &#8211; It was just an idea as a representation of your hero's vital statistics. If you don't like it, no worries eh?
     
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  20. di Fredsta!

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    I'll go as far as saying he was incredibly lucky in Valencia (as was Webber) and was going nowhere until the SC came and helped him. He certainly didnt race well enough for a podium imo.
     
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