The system we have may not be perfect, but making the FA's procedures like a court of law would be a joke. Almost every red card would be disputed by some high price lawyer that can raise reasonable doubt about if he meant to stud the other guy in the knee because there was a problem with his studs or a piece of turf was loose or he got a fly in his eye, the whole system would be twice as bad as it currently is if that kind of system was enforced. At the end of the day the football league is still just a place of employment and the FA runs it's disciplinary board just like most workplaces, expecting it to be run like a criminal court is just stupid in my opinion.
Gonna say this one last time in my entire life - JT has said he used the words but in different context, he said he was repeating Anton's accusation back to him by saying something along the lines of 'I never called you an FBC, ****ing knobhead', the thing in question is did he or didn't he say 'I never called you a' before saying 'FBC', Ashley Cole's head is in the way.
Yeah, you have a point about the disputes that would arise from every decision. As a compromise, would you agree that the FA need to re-evaluate their position with adjudicating issues that have an impact outside of the game, i.e. racism? I mean, racism isn't really a footballing issue is it, yes it happened on the pitch but it seems to stray away from the actual on pitch decisions that the FA has to judge on. Fouls, elbows, managers gobbing off etc are worthy of judgement and as such these issues do not impact outside of football, whereas a charge of racism has a huge impact outside of the game., not only to the individual but to the club as well. Is it correct that the FA should judge these instances based purely on footballing matters, when their decision impacts outside of football and thus becomes more than a footballing issue? I don't have the answers, however, I feel that the effect that a FA decision can have impacts on real life (so to speak) and thus real life standards should be used, and thus the FA should have limitations when it comes to stuff like this!
You are actually wasting your time trying to reason with shwan to be honest! I asked him earlier did he think it was okay for Fergie to use excuses to get off with his 'driving on the hard shoulder' charge! He replied with something along the lines of, 'of course Fergie is going to defend his players from diving!'
Yes, that's the whole confusion - Anton didn't actually say anything, JT thought he did. Anton only saw the video an hour after the game. Your last line is frankly ridiculous.
Have you missed the news shwan? Terry was found not guilty, so it doesn't really matter what you think! People like you make me sick to be honest, I can guarantee that you were all over the Suarez verdict with stuff like, 'the panel found him guilty', 'he was found guilty' etc etc in response to Liverpool fans trying to claim Suarez was hard done by. Now that Terry has been found innocent you are doubting the verdict and coming out with excuses why the verdict is wrong! Why not follow your own mantra and accept the verdict for what it is? Terry is innocent, get over it! I actually want to know why you think like you do, I imagine it is because it involves Rio's brother and thus you have to defend your captain and his family at all costs, without realising that you are making yourself look like a complete prick in the process!
I thought that. I know JT isn't exactly a likeable character but people put their hatred ahead of logic when it comes to footballers. Pisses me right off.
I actually don't get the 'hate' that surrounds Terry... Okay, he parked in a disabled spot...so! I've done that before, and so have millions of other people! Okay, he shagged a team mated ex...so! It was his ex, and I've done that before, so have millions of other people, well not 0maybe millions? Okay, his family have a bad reputation...so! Mine does too, and so does millions of other families! Okay, he was part of an ill-advised joke after 9/11...so! I have told jokes about it too, so have millions of other people! Anything else? I am not saying what he does is good, I am just saying we all do the stuff he has done...anyone who thinks that they are justified by saying he is a totally despicable **** cos he parked in a disabled bay needs to have a real good look at what they feel is unjust in this society!
Seriously guys....who gives a ****?! Why must everyone waste their time talking **** about something that was a complete waste of time and tax payers money?! On a side note, I am not racist in the slightest, but the law is ****ed when it makes "being racist" illegal and says "You cannot be racist, otherwise we will take you to court" total ****ing madness. Let people get on with whatever they want to do or think.....gahhhh!!! Hopefully some juicy transfers will happen soon and this BS will all be brushed aside.
Racism may not be a footballing issue as such, but it is something that is heavily linked with football at this point in time with so many players traveling all over the world to play, especially with the kick it out campaign getting so much publicity, and because of this the FA have to be seen to take a dim view of any form of racism or racist remarks.
let's get this straight everyone in Liverpool is innocent And so is JT and his Mum bought that stuff. The lies people tell themselves to cover up racism are truly amazing. If a hundred plus grand a week weren't enough, these tossers have got you fawning twats making excuses for their ****ty behaviour that they would never get away with if they couldn't kick a ball abit. ****s sake, climb out of their arse'oles will ya !
Hold on, are you trying to say that Rooney was treated unfairly? Really? I know this will deviate from the topic, but I had you down as a decent poster, and someone who could debate freely without the ridiculousness that sometimes accompanies United fans! By suggesting that Rooney was treated unfairly, and thus not grasping the fundamental fault that Rooney made, makes me realise that my opinion of you was sadly mistaken! All players swear, we know that, no player has ever done what Rooney did, you know that, so why try and excuse it? You seem reasonable enough, don't let yourself down by making excuses...
They don't look foolish because they punished a player for breaking their rules, and it's nothing to do with the laws of the land as we have already covered numerous times in this thread which is why he doesn't have to be proven guilty without reasonable doubt and why this charge does not go on his criminal record, it was a football related ban not a criminal charge! It's not like the FA are just picking on Suarez, John Mackie got an 8 match ban almost 10 years ago for making racist comments during a game, but unlike Suarez (led by Dalglish of course) he immediately apologized and voluntarily donated 2 weeks wages to the anti-racism campaign, his apology was accepted and the club chose to drop the matter, the FA still handed out the 8 match ban but they then suspended 5 matches of it.
Rob, seriously, you seem to want to say something, but your point does not come across as readable! What is it you are trying to say? My guess is that you are saying that people buy stuff and people lie, and you are inside an arsehole and want to get out, if you could kick a ball 'a bit'!
I'm not really suggesting he was treated unfairly because I can understand why they banned him, but they certainly don't seem to be banning too many other players for similar incidents. Rooney received that ban for saying "****ing what" in front of a camera but no other player seems to be getting banned for similar incidents, and there has been plenty with players shouting things like "****ing get in" at the cameras, how is that any different?
