I agree that Liverpool could have reacted a lot better after the decision! What they did was ridiculous considering they had no real grounds to further their complaint, i.e. they could not appeal the verdict only the punishment! However, I understand their stance if they feel they were wronged! Having said that, you are right, in hindsight they should have just swallowed it and explained themselves! As for Terry, I am not so sure he was guilty, unfortunately we only saw one side of the spat and the crucial point in that spat was obscured...anyway, what both these episodes have done imo is highlight the fact that the actual issue of racism has been forgotten by the majority of fans, and all we want is for 'our' player to come out unscathed! Which is a bit sad to be honest!
Suarez used the same word with Yaya Toure the year before and there was no intervention by the FA. The FA charged him specifically because Evra told everyone who would listen that Suarez called him a n&&ger. The real evil racist word. He later changed his storybut by then the charges were already formal and the FA who find guilty 99% of the time anyway also had a PR problem to sort out especially considering they had internal allegations of racists in their organisation. The end.
They actually did not take into account the evidence given by the cultural experts with regards to the context, their evidence was neither damning or helpful to Suarez, they stated that he 'could' have been being offensive and also that his words 'could' be taken as inoffensive dependent on his meaning, which nobody except himself would ever know! Anyway, I am tired of going over the Suarez incident, all I do know is that Suarez would never have been found guilty by a court of law, just like Terry! And therein lies the problem, how can we have two different bodies judging two similar cases and think that the system is fair? Both should have been judged by the FA or both judged by the courts. I imagine that both verdicts would have been the same, i.e. Suarez and Terry would have both been found guilty by the FA or they would both have been found not guilty by the courts...to have two different outcomes to two similar cases makes a mockery of the FA imo, because the legal system will never change! I understand why it happened the way it did, I just think it is ridiculous that it had to be that way!
The cultural experts were 2 blokes from the University of Manchester. A Cultural expert who had actually lived in the region shot down nearly all of their key conclusions. Anyway who cares about Terry. He's an ar£e and was never going to get done in criminal court where your need real evidence. Preseason is about to start and the transfer window is open
I am comparing the fact that both Gerrard's and Fergie's lawyers used the fact that you have to be proven guilty in order to be found guilty! By whatever means that took, they both played the system to their advantage...you think what Gerrard did was unfair, yet seem okay with the fact that Fergie did basically the same thing!
This is fact! In fact, to go one step further, the first person in this whole charade to use the word '******' was actually Fergie, that is according to the official report, before Fergie burst into the ref's room to report the word, Evra had actually not used it, again, this is in the official report!
How hard is this to understand, one was dealt with by the FA as they are the governing body responsible for dealing with player complaints, just like any job's disciplinary committee would of dealt with staff complaints from within their own workplace. The other was taken to a court of law simply because it wasn't reported to the FA at all, especially not by a player, it was reported to the police by a member of the public. The cases may of been similar, but the circumstances surrounding them were very different.
I do not fail to understand what happened, I am saying that this should not have happened, and thus somebody, i.e. the FA need to look at their procedures! Do you not think that it would be better for everybody concerned if these two incidents were dealt with by one body, be that the FA or the courts? All we have now is inconsistency, how on Earth can the FA pursue Terry now when the law of the land has declared him not-guilty? If they do it will look ridiculous imo...as i said earlier, the FA are a law onto themselves and this just highlights the fact that their procedures are in serious need of a rethink!
How am I talking bollocks? Terry should have got off with it...Suarez would have got off with it if he was up in court too! However, we now have a situation were one was banned for 8 games and one will more than likely not be banned! So both players are innocent according to the laws of the land, yet one has been castigated as a racist and banned whilst the other has not...how is that me talking bollocks? By the way, this is nothing against Terry, the case should never have been taken to court, my problem is with the FA acting above and beyond the laws of the land and using guesswork as a means to establish guilt!
The FA are not a court of law, think of the football leagues as a work place, footballers as the staff and the FA as the bosses. The Suarez complaint was made by the staff to the bosses so they dealt with it in house as any other workplace would of, they do not and, in my opinion, should not follow the same procedures as a court of law.
I don't care about Terry but at the end of the day Suarez was not done for racial abuse. The official verdict was 4 games for abusing another player verbally, and 4 more for referencing skin colour during that exchange. Letter of the law technicality. Terry did exactly the same under the letter of the law so consistency should be applied. If it's not, I really don't care. Unless he's 6 yards from goal in a parked bus, Terry is more of a liability on the pitch these days than off it so ban or no ban I win.
You are talking bollocks because Suarez was found guilty by the body that charged him. Jt was found innocent by the body that charged him. See,you talk bollocks.
Only terry the scumb*g as been found innocent by the laws of the land! Suarez has not been found guilty or innocent as he has not been tried. Whether you like it or not or question the validity of the FA panel, he was found guilty by an FA disciplinary panel. FACT.
I get all that, I just find it ridiculous that it should be this way when we have a clear case of similar issues being dealt with separately! If for example, a member of the public had complained about Suarez (difficult I know seeing as nobody except Evra seen or heard anything), then we would probably have seen Suarez getting off with it! Or as another example, nobody had complained about Terry, then he more than likely would have been banned for 8 games and fined £40k! So, by having the system we have, it takes a member of the public to determine whether or not a player is found guilty of racial abuse! If Suarez was complained about, the FA would not be involved and Suarez would be found innocent, if Terry was not complained about the FA would be involved and he would be found guilty! How is that fair? My point is, how can it be deemed fair, when all it takes is a complaint from the member of the public to alter the punishment or decision that the FA brings? Surely change is needed?
I know, amazing isn't it. Countless man hours, South American language 'experts' flown in from Manchester, piles of witnesses and research, and at the end of the day the official justification for the ban was a technicality. Shocking.
And of course that was totally impartial and nothing to do with trying to get 'off with it'! Get real mate! Anyway, Gerrard was innocent, you just have to find a way to deal with that fact...regardless of what you think should have happened, the legal minds who were involvend in that case all came to the same conclusion, i.e. no case to answer!
