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9/11 New Evidence

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  1. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    That'll be because it's total cobblers. But you can't argue with the deluded. That - seriously - is one of the definitions of psychosis.
     
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  2. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Got to hand it to ye, Eddie. Ye do get them all snapping.
     
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  3. HandsomeDaniel

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    Next you are going to tell us Big Foot and Nessie exist!
     
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  4. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    The same Bin Laden who was a CIA operative? And that he was isnt even denied
     
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  5. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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  6. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Are you ****ing serious?
     
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  7. RAVENBLACK

    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    And Bin Bag was certainly not killed by those seals.

    Conveniently disposing of the body before the public could see.
     
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  8. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    That's right, Boris. It's everyone else that's mad, not you.
     
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  9. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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  10. HandsomeDaniel

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    I like being deluded, I save myself a fortune on Tin Foil Hats!
     
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  11. Joe!

    Joe! Well-Known Member

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    Oh good lord. You conspiracy theorists crack me up. Not only did Bin Laden concisely explain why he orchestrated the attacks, but his explanation was also very reasonable.

    ""I say to you, God knows that it had never occurred to us to strike the towers. But after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and tyranny of the American/Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind.

    The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped them in that. This bombardment began and many were killed and injured and others were terrorised and displaced.

    I couldn't forget those moving scenes, blood and severed limbs, women and children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and high rises demolished over their residents, rockets raining down on our home without mercy.

    The situation was like a crocodile meeting a helpless child, powerless except for his screams. Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn't include a weapon? And the whole world saw and heard but it didn't respond.

    In those difficult moments many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny, and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.

    And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children.

    And that day, it was confirmed to me that oppression and the intentional killing of innocent women and children is a deliberate American policy. Destruction is freedom and democracy, while resistance is terrorism and intolerance." - Osama Bin Laden."


    America terrorises Middle East; Middle East terrorises America.
     
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  12. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Americans do that a lot

    dispose of all the metal to china almost overnight, dispose of the body

    You would have thought the worst thing to happen on american soil since pearl harbour would have got a little more investigation?
     
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  13. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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  14. Magic Laudrup 11

    Magic Laudrup 11 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Of course I haven't, I'm too smart and well educated to be doing the manual stuff. You on the other hand <whistle>
     
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  15. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Never have truer words been spoken

    of course we dont know who wrote and said them
     
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  16. HandsomeDaniel

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    Where does Tim stay, Conntecuit? Florida? Montana?

    Whats his job Lumber Jack in Idaho, Video Store Clerk in WIsconsin

    What sort of house does he stay in The White House? Little House On The Praire?
     
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  17. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    In case you haven&#8217;t noticed, this site is currently being bombarded by a certain strand of conspiracy theorist. I&#8217;m still not entirely sure what these people believe in, apart from being absolutely certain that the government is developing brain-eating vaccines, spiking the water with lithium and trying to subdue the population with &#8220;reactive&#8221; medicine. While it&#8217;s always sad to see so much angry ignorance on parade, it&#8217;s also a fascinating case study in cognitive dissonance.

    The theory of cognitive dissonance &#8211; one of most influential theories in social psychology &#8211; was pioneered by Leon Festinger, at the University of Minnesota. In the summer of 1954, Festinger was reading the morning newspaper when he encountered a short article about Marion Keech, a housewife in suburban Minneapolis who was convinced that the apocalypse was coming. (Keech was a pseudonym.) She had started getting messages from aliens a few years before, but now the messages were getting eerily specific. According to Sananda, an extra-terrestrial from the planet Clarion who was in regular contact with Keech, human civilization would be destroyed by a massive flood at midnight on December 20, 1954.

    Keech&#8217;s sci-fi prophecy soon gained a small band of followers. They trusted her divinations, and marked the date of Armageddon on their calendars. Many of them quit their jobs and sold their homes. The cultists didn&#8217;t bother buying Christmas presents or making arrangements for New Years Eve, since nothing would exist by then.

    Festinger immediately realized that Keech would make a great research subject. He decided to infiltrate the group by pretending to be a true believer. What Festinger wanted to study was the reaction of the cultists on the morning of December 21, when the world wasn&#8217;t destroyed and no spaceship appeared. Would Keech recant? What would happen when her prophesy failed?

    On the night of December 20, Keech&#8217;s followers gathered in her home and waited for instructions from the aliens. Midnight approached. When the clock read 12:01 and there were still no aliens, the cultists began to worry. A few began to cry. The aliens had let them down. But then Keech received a new telegram from outer space, which she quickly transcribed on her notepad. &#8220;This little group sitting all night long had spread so much light,&#8221; the aliens told her, &#8220;that god saved the world from destruction. Not since the beginning of time upon this Earth has there been such a force of Good and light as now floods this room.&#8221; In other words, it was their stubborn faith that had prevented the apocalypse. Although Keech&#8217;s predictions had been falsified, the group was now more convinced than ever that the aliens were real. They began proselytizing to others, sending out press releases and recruiting new believers. This is how they reacted to the dissonance of being wrong: by becoming even more certain that they were right.

    There is, of course, something deeply troubling about cognitive dissonance, since it suggests that we double-down on our beliefs in light of conflicting evidence. While neuroscientists have begun to decipher the anatomy of this mental flaw &#8211; you can blame your anterior cingulate cortex &#8211; I sometimes worry that the internet is making things worse. Although we&#8217;re all vulnerable to cognitive dissonance (and the paranoid style has always been a loud presence in American politics) we seem to squander ever more oxygen on worthless conversations about Obama&#8217;s birth certificate and the North American Union. After all, thanks to Google we can find &#8220;evidence&#8221; in support of practically any belief. If you can imagine the conspiracy theory, there is a website out there ardently promoting it, and a clan of fellow believers who share your peculiar obsession with fluoridated drinking water and the New World Order. The end result is that we never have to recant. We can always find another link to &#8220;prove&#8221; that the government is trying to &#8220;zombify&#8221; us, or that aliens are going to destroy the earth at midnight.

    http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/08/the-psychology-of-conspiracy-theories/
     
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  18. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    Oh yes. Began when his Mujahideen (spelling?) were fighting the ruskies in Afghanistan
     
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  19. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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  20. RAVENBLACK

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    Governments are well known for cover ups.l
     
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