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Tuesday 10th July Daily Thread

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by stick, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. famouswise

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    they always fire their jockeys like kinane got the sack for losing his reins on the iron horse in the breeders cup

    spencer got that job way too young
     
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  2. Wayward Lad

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    Not much i fancy tonight, but a couple of interesting runners at big prices are:

    6.35 Southwell - Kingsville 40/1 im not sure ive seen many Elite Racing Club types in the Mark Johnston yard, however, this one went off at a pretty short price for a maiden suggesting that he may have been showing something at home over 5f, his next run was over 7f where he was up with the pace and faded final furlong. His expereince in those two races may have settled him enough to be in with a shout tonight and significantly for me he is dropped back to 5f which may see him run into a place, i said earlier missing out on a double priced Mark Johnston winners was a bummer and at 40/1 this one is worth a small EW dabble.

    7.05 Fredrick The Great 11/2 showed enough promise over C&D in November last year off the same mark when going off as 15/8 fav to suggest he could be in with shout here tonight.

    8.05 Ursula 12/1 EW will love the fibre sand is far to big a price for a stable bang in form and an additional 5lb claimer makes her more interesting.

    Good luck to those who play tonight, im off to throw myself around the football pitch for a couple of hours <cheers>
     
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  3. rainbowview

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    It is a good job he still doesn't have it <laugh> would rather have Joseph on than that plank

    BUICK is the boy ;)
     
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  4. Quelesprit

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    The favourite will probably win the first at Uttoxeter but I've not been able to stop myself from having an each way bet on Dr Newlands runner Ahyaknowyourself who is debuting for the yard following a fairly decent spell in Ireland. I'm hoping it will appreciate the ground which is something the Kim Bailey second favourite definitely won't do.
     
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  5. Quelesprit

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    Bombel is overpriced as well at 28's
     
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  6. GGW

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    Buick is going places for sure but Ryan Moore is top dog and should have got the top job.
     
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  7. famouswise

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    Ahyouknowyourself

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
     
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  8. Quelesprit

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    Get in.

    Well done Famous as well.

    Have a bit of that. The real racing starts and we're banging in the 6/1 winners.
     
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  9. famouswise

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    well done quel love BOG backed that at 4/1
     
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  10. Quelesprit

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    Hang on. Having horses in training and having a retained jockey require slightly different levels of personal wealth I would have thought.
     
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  11. famouswise

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    right reafadda e/w at roscommon
     
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  12. Quelesprit

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    Mullins no1 goes in easily. Just two more to go now for the treble.
     
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  13. woolcombe-folly007

    woolcombe-folly007 Well-Known Member

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    evening all

    just having a look at tonights card, will post my selections as they come

    good luck to everyone!
     
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  14. TopClass

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    Over the years there has been a definate trend in the breeding of horses who excel on the Southwell fibresand. Many believe that US dirt bred horses are ideal for the fibresand and indeed it is common practice to look for debutants with this breeding, making their first runs at the course.

    In a recent interview Hugh Taylor of At The Races examined the top sires on the southwell fibresand by comparing their offspring&#8217;s success on the all-weather to their strike rate on the turf. Hugh&#8217;s finding&#8217;s were very interesting, although some of the sample sizes were small.




    Sire


    Wins


    Runs


    All-Weather %


    Turf %



    Baltic King

    5

    8

    62%

    8.5%



    Refuse To Bend

    12

    53

    24%

    8.4%



    Doneraile Court

    12

    41

    29.3%

    10.5%



    Statue Liberty

    11

    55

    20%

    7.3%



    Street Cry

    15

    54

    27.8%

    11.1%



    Fasliyev

    38

    213

    17.8%

    7.9%



    Dynaformer

    7

    20

    35%

    15.7%



    Shamardal

    10

    35

    28.6%

    14.1%



    Chevalier

    9

    49

    18.4%

    9.1%



    Johannesburg

    16

    84

    19%

    10%



    Dubai Destination

    22

    106

    20.8%

    11%



    Fantastic Flight

    21

    133

    15.8%

    8.6%



    Dr Fong

    35

    209

    16.8%

    9.2%



    Piccolo

    78

    595

    13.1%

    7.3%



    Mujahid

    34

    202

    16.8%

    9.2%



    Dubawi

    13

    49

    26.5%

    15.3%



    Medicean

    27

    140

    19.3%

    11.6%



    Bold Edge

    18

    155

    11.4%

    7.3%



    Elnadim

    14

    87

    16.1%

    10.6%



    Dansili

    28

    162

    17.3%

    11.9%



    Ishiguru

    21

    141

    14.9%

    10.4%



    Noverre

    20

    128

    15.6%

    11.5%



    Elusive Dancer

    21

    135

    15.6%

    12.2%


    One interesting statistic that Hugh Taylor uncovered for the Southwell fibresand sires was that of Danehill Dancer , a sire who&#8217;s offspring are regarded as best suited to good / soft conditions, the kind of conditions on the turf that certain commentators would say are ideal for transfer to the southwell fibresand. However the figures do not support this with 14 wins from 286 runs, only 4.9% on the all-weather and 11.4% on the turf.

    You can follow Hugh Taylor on Twitter at @HughRacing .
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    http://southwellracecoursetips.co.u...ing_wp_cron=1341942550.8528759479522705078125

    Always wanted to have a gander at Southwells statistics so that might be interesting for some of you to have a gander at <ok>

    Not that I'd recommend betting in low grade handicaps of course.
     
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  15. Quelesprit

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    Jesus H Christ - Peaks of Fire has finally won a race.
     
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  16. Quelesprit

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    Sam Royal in the next at Roscommon.
     
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  17. woolcombe-folly007

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    Daddy Warbucks in the next at southwell
     
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  18. woolcombe-folly007

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    Australia are being spanked! #1 one day team in the world my ****
     
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  19. famouswise

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    i would rather back donkeys on blackpool beach than that shambles that is southwell sands
     
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  20. woolcombe-folly007

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    Daddy Warbucks boooom!
     
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