If this focuses his mind, and he plays with gritted teeth, he will be absolutely unstoppable. An angry Andy Carroll Would be really disappointing if Rodgers can't fit him into his plans. I am a fan, but whatever is best for the club, will have to be accepted.
I dont know what Rodgers is playing at saying this, it might be an attempt to motivate Carroll but it could totally backfire and drain his confidence that he had only got back after a terrible season last season bar a few games at the end of the season.
I don't think it's trying to motivate him, now that's he put him out there I believe it's to say to clubs that if you want him come and get him, if the price is not right then he goes on loan and hopefully does well and increases that transfer fee. It seems a bold move from Rodgers but from what I've seen so far he is willing to give people who buy into his methods a chance, I presume that Carroll has not bought into his plans and has therefore been shown where the door is but not yet been pushed through it.
I dissagree with Rodgers on this, I think Carroll is always a great option to have, playing or on the bench. However, I think Rodgers style is more suited to Suarez and looking to bring players on his similar mind set. Unlike Adam and Downing, who were solely for Carroll and look how they turned out. Have to trust Rodgers and see how thing unfold, I do think Carroll could have done with a loan last season though, but not anymore and for gods sake don't do anymore stupid loan deals with the Italian mafia.
This Milan thing is really annoying me. Milan had a press conference, largely surrounding the future of Ibra and Thiago Silva - their prize assets. Berlusconi's son, whose name escapes me right now, confirmed both players would stay. He was asked which players from the Euros he admired or enjoyed the performances of. One of those players was Carroll - the comment that he had 'great physique'. End of; media ****e.
I am hoping this is some sort of psychologicaltactic from Rogers that I don't understand because if this is serious I'll b ****inglivid. Why pay £35m quid for a player to ship him out on loan 18 months down the line. I was never happy with the mony we paid for Carroll but I waspeased to have him. OK he had a shaky start but he has never been dreadful imo.He was ****ing awesome against Everton in the 3-0 win then he got dropped. I blame Kenny for a lot of Carrols inconsistency cos he never got a chance to get a string of good performances together. He had a good Euro's, made us look like a different side in the FA Cup final. We dont have to just hofof it up the field when he is on the pitch, he can hold the ball up better than anyone i've seen for years, can lay clever passes and can run round all day, theres more to him than just sitting in the box and waiting for the ball. A loan would just turn him into another Aqualani. ****ing Ridiculous
Its always impossible to know what's happening behind closed Gates but this does seem a strange one. If it happens I can only presume its a clash of personalities. If its a question of "fitting into a system" isn't BR supposed to be adept at improving and developing young players? I can't see how a loan move to a team where he may not get any more game time than at Anfield makes any sense. If he doesn't want him around then **** loaning him to a team who will never stump up the cash for him next summer anyway. Hope he stays personally
Again I may be reading between the lines but if he openly says that he would be available for loan then that would indicate selling him would be an option at the right price.
Think brendan also has to consider Carrolls overall contribution, not just his attacking style. At defensive set pieces, carroll is regularly our best defender. And when you come up against big teams in the premiership, you need that. You watch people looking to get corners against us or free kick in the margins when all we have on the pitch to defend against it is Agger and Skrtel...... Carrol is vital for us in that respect as we dont have a huge team interms of height, and it only looks like getting shorter over thenext few years...... I want us to play attractive possession football, but we need to look at how other teams will counter that. There is no point in having the ball for 70% of the time if the opposition get one free kick, and score. i think carroll has a very important role to play for us both in attack and in defence and BR should not disregard his contribution. im hoping you are right about him being a Liverpool player on the 1st
Can't make much sense of it either, surely Rogers knows how good Carroll was at the end of the last season and how tidy he looked in the Euros? People (media) are just starting to get off his back and now this. If Carroll goes out on loan he will not play for LFC again, that will be BR saying he doesn't want him here & I think that's outrageous - especially if we don't get 2 in to replace our already bare attacking options.
That may well be the plan though. I don't think it's outrageous as we don't know the reasons why. If Carroll has shown any unwillingness to play in Rodgers style then damn right he should be loaned out or sold.
How many training sessions has there been though? I obviously know as little as any one else, just would be so surprised if Carroll has refused to play a certain style. If that is the case then fair play - you do as your told or go.
Thats fair enough, big if though - he doesn't seem the type to spit his dummy out, always some accross as more of a work-horse IMO. Suppose we dont know exactly whats going on, but stuff like this is infuriatin. If there is a problem, should be sorted behid closed doors - this stuff does my blood pressure no good at all.
I don't know but what I am reading into this is.... Rodgers spoke to Carroll and then said that "he knows where he stands." Rodgers then says "He would consider a loan move" and in the same quote mentions that players may have the ability but not the mentality. I think that Carroll has shown some kind of concern about Rodgers methods.
I suppose we should look at it from BR's point of view,Carroll is not his purchase(hes Kenny's),BR would never have bought Carroll if he'd been our manager at the time and BR dictates how he wants us to play. If he starts Andy it's back to humping long balls into the area for him to use his strength in the air which would therefore not fit in with the style of play the manager wants. Personally i think it's good to have Carroll as back-up if things aren't going our way with pretty football.
Maybe Carroll needs to mentally believe he's actually like Fabregas in the Spanish team. He should be more mobile, run and turn faster, and stop putting himself about physically and head the ball less. He needs to be a bit more like Iniesta, and as we paid £35m for him, that's not unreasonable to ask, is it? Then again, we could rub our hands together at the prospect that as he's now fit and keen again, he scares the Bejesus out of most defences either starting and pumelling defences from the off, or coming off the bench and terrorising a tiring back four, as he did in the Cup final. Or option three is to not even consider how he'll fit into a pass-and-move system (though Toshack did) and farm him out to Italy for three years (and they DO appreciate him) after which, as the case with Aqua proves, they'll offer us £2-3m for his contract. Anyone else old enough to remember Tony Hately? Didn't Shanks say he wanted a 20-goal-a-season striker and sell him even though he did get 20 goals? Apparently Shanks thought he didn't fit our style of play... Which makes me think, Toshack and hately apart, how many big, battering ram style players did we have under Shanks, Paisley, Moran and Dalglish the first? Can only think of Robinson and Hodgson to add to that list. Only Toshack, alongside keegan, really flourished, and I, amongst may, have been saying that Suarez reminds me more of Keegan that dalglish in his style of play. I could be talking cr@p again though...
Can't sell someone from behind closed doors, you have to put them out there, which is what he has done.
A loan would benefit Carroll; He learns for a new culture of football, trains at one of the worlds best football clubs, gets a chance to play regularly without much pressure. However I dont see it benefiting Liverpool; We lose a another striker leaving us with noneish (Suarez, Bellamy and Borini are forwards, wouldnt call them strikers). We wouldnt have a back option in tactics, Carroll provides a great 2nd option is the passing game isnt working. If Borini fails, and this is a big possibility as the lad is virtually unproven, Carroll is now starting to show signs of improvement. The only thing in favour of the club would be the chance that Carroll does come back after a year a changed player but there is nothing guaranteed about that. The only way Carroll leaving would help the club this year is if he was sold and the money used to buy another striker.
Make fun of me all you will... But i can not find one point in the article that suggests that Rodgers is pushing to loan Carroll out. In my opinion this is just regular BBC bullshit (as always) twisting words on Brendans Loaning policy.. Saying this: the Italian game could benefit Carrolls game.
