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John Terry trial and verdict

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Eamon Holmes, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    I think he's alleging that Anton asked - Did you just call me a FBC?

    to which Terry replies No I didn't call you a FBC
     
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  2. Eamon Holmes

    Eamon Holmes Well-Known Member

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    Nobody talks like that. A "normal" person would just say "No," or "No I effin' didn't".

    Examples:
    "Are you going to visit your Grandmother in Scotland today?" - "No, I'm not gong to visit my grandmother in Scotland."
    "Is the weather wet and horrible where you are today?" - "Yes, the weather is wet and horrible".

    We don't speak like that, do we?

    The only time we speak like that is during a French aural exam or the like.
     
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  3. Flyer

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    So now he thinks anton just suddenly heard those words out of thin air?
     
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  4. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    I agree with Eamon, it's not a convincing defence from what we know so far. Surely other players heard the exchange. Be interesting to see if any of our players are being called as prosecution witnesses.
     
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  5. West London Willy

    West London Willy Well-Known Member

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    The case seems to be rogressing along the lines of "he was winding me up".

    Apparently, Anton started winding him up about shagging Wayne Bridges' missus, and he reacted to that. Kind of goes against everything he has said so far, and if this is true it does make him out to be agressive, insulting, and in the heat of the moment, a racist.

    Thing is - there's precedent for FA Punishment when someone reacts after being 'goaded'. I present as a case study, a certain Mr J Barton, who had been kicked almost off the park by Tevez before losing his rag.

    When this is proved, the FA, to remain consistent, should be looking at a similar punishment, because even though we're talking verbal rather than physical abuse, Barton didn't do anything worthy of a court case, and the FA have previously shown in the Suarez / Evra case that they like to come down hard on racist abuse.
     
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  6. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    Ferdinand has said that he didn't think Terry used racial language. So who did?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18760180

    "The Chelsea player said in his statement that he had asked Mr Ferdinand if he was accusing him of using racially abusive language towards him.

    “ Later, in an interview, he added: "I'm being honest and open with you guys, that I didn't mean it in the context that, if you watch the video and me, watching the video, you can quite easily say that doesn't look good.

    "But at the same time, in the context of what I thought Anton accused me of, you know, no-one can argue what my feelings were at that time."

    Immediately after the match, Mr Ferdinand did not think that Mr Terry had used racist words, the court heard.

    "It's handbags innit - it's what happens on the pitch", he said, and the two shook hands.

    But later, Mr Ferdinand's girlfriend showed him footage posted on YouTube, and he believed Mr Terry had used the racist insult
     
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  7. FFS.73

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    They're reading out Anton's statement, and it makes clear that he did not accuse Terry of racially abusing him. Perhaps this will convince Chelsea 'fans', people who send bullets through the post and the 'shake hands and forget it' brigade on here that their bile has been directed in the wrong direction.
     
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  8. NORTHOLT

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    It won't, cos dey is thick innit!
     
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  9. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    Unfortuntely every club has their morons.

    What I don't get, if Ferdinand is not making the claim for racial abuse, why has he kept his silence over it all? If he has nothing to do with the case, why not come out and say that he was not racially abused?

    Something just isn't quite right in all of this.
     
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  10. The other R in Houston

    The other R in Houston Well-Known Member

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    I hope so. But I doubt it.
     
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  11. NORTHOLT

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    Anton said from the start, he never heard anything, if Terry hadn't tried that bullshit excuse all this would've gone away, he dropped himself in it!
     
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  12. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    Are you sure? I don't recall Ferdinand saying anything about the issue. If he also said this, why all the probelms with big bro Rio and him being left out of teh Euro squad? Surely if Anton has said nothing happened then everyone would have accepted that Rio is an injury prone old man who would be a waste of a place in the squad, rather than link it to the trial?
     
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  13. GoldhawkRoad

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    He didn't think he'd been abused during the match, but his girlfriend showed him a video of the match afterwards which showed clearly that Terry had used racially abusive language.
     
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  14. Jammers

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    Probably been advised to not talk to the press about the case due to legal situation...makes perfect sense to me.
     
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  15. NORTHOLT

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    I didn't say he said nothing happened, he said in the aftermath of the match he never heard anything, thereby rendering Terrys BS excuse invalid.
    I'm also sure he didn't want any of this<ok>
     
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  16. allsaintchris.

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    I'm sure he didn't as I'm not aware of any bad feelings between them before this. Not quite sure how he couldn't have heard anything as he was stood by him! Do we think his girlfriend was the member of the public who made the complaint? It just seems odd the a third party who couldn't have heard the comments if no one around Terry and Ferdinand did, has made the complaint.
     
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  17. Eamon Holmes

    Eamon Holmes Well-Known Member

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    Is his suit a bit too small ... or has he got his kit on underneath?

    please log in to view this image
     
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  18. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    Maybe he had dinner with Frank the night before <laugh>
     
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  19. Swords Hoopster

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    Thank you!
     
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  20. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    So, both sides accept they were swearing at each other. Difference is down to the use of one word by one of the players during a heat of the moment bit of sledging which seemingly means he is 100% racist and presumably may as well be a Nazi now.

    5 day trial. Really? Why not a section 5 public order offence for the pair of them for swearing in public?
     
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