for you it is finishing above us...for us it has been about catching up...and it is evident on the pitch and off iit that we are catching up...i am talking about football here not about wether your dugout has Recarro seats or not..so lets talk about the football because quite frankly whenever you need to mention your history it means you cnt really talk about much else. for every fan of every club their history is important...no other fan gives a **** about your trophy cabinet..just their own..the only people it bothers are the footballers...and it has been displayed once again by the best player on your team(RVP,yes him who is leaving)...he could not give a **** about your trophy cabinet...and i bet he knows more about the ongoings within the club..than you. so when you put your trophies back in the cupboard..and stop counting the seats in your big stadium...the point that concerns every fan..every weekend remains....and that is that we are improving..and you seem not to be...if you are so happy then i think you must want Wenger to remain with your club for life...and i know for a fact that is not true..just read the articles on here
You? Improving? Finishes: 4-5-4 (no CL) Us? Declining? Finishes: 3-4-3 (Still in CL) I'd take not improving thanks if it means we get to savour CL football every season, as we have done for the last 15 years. Tottenham can keep "improving", although I think they have been improving for the last 20 seasons now...
and i thought you had title aspirations in the last 10 seasons..which is 1-2 place finishes...fair enough you have always been looking to be 3rd/4th........as for us them final placings you mentioned above are an improvement to where we was. so my point remains whilst you just proved that your happy with 3rd/4th..whilst im sure you used to kick off your seasons within the last 10 years hoping to win the title. i know out of the 2 which would be classed as an improvement and which would be regarded as decline. and i compare my improvement to our seasons gone to where we are now..you are comparing your decline to our success..which in itself says alot...that is not how it works...you should give up..them tints have blinded you. your angles in this debate are bouncing around because you dont really have a point.
You're wrong I never said we were happy with 3rd or 4th I said I'd rather finish in the CL places than where Jokenham Bottlespur always finish, in the Ropey league. I guess it's a matter of perspective then eh? I would suggest you lot shut it or risk looking like fools when next season has finished. We are actually similar to where we were four or five years ago.
you need to stop comparing in order to asess progress..it should be relative to where you have been as a club not us..and if you honestly think you are where you was 5 seasons ago...then fair enough..im talking about how things are finishing on the pitch at the end of the seasons..but ok if you really believe what you say..because i believe we definately are on the way up. with regards me using RVP in my argument..i must clarify that i am on Mr Wenger's side in this as his model must be respected as it has kept you competing very near the top.
Well done for getting 3rd. This long term is a partial victory as your concern must be challenging for honours. I think this was the first time that you never looked like you would win anything. The constant loss of your best players , lack of cash, insipid atmosphere, delusion of pecking order with the major power houses , has left your once noble club slipping from its high perch. When Spurs have their new stadium , you feel their board will spend and their fan base is more militant not to let the board line their own pockets as your,s seems to be doing. With the mega money corrupt clubs there is little chance of Arsenal winning anything in the future or to be fair anyone else. Welcome to the supporting cast.
Somewhere over the rainbow Way up high, There's a land that I heard of Once in a lullaby. Somewhere over the rainbow Skies are blue, And the dreams that you dare to dream Really do come true. Someday I'll wish upon a star And wake up where the clouds are far Behind me. Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Somewhere over the rainbow Bluebirds fly. Birds fly over the rainbow. Why then, oh why can't I? If happy little bluebirds fly Beyond the rainbow Why, oh why can't I?
And yet you mention him as a first team player which kind of sums up your knowledge of football, I doubt Fergie is that annoyed really, its not like he cant just buy him back off of you if he proves to be Premier league material. Have you forgotten the amount of times United have come in and taken your best players. I heard their in for Modric next (Your best player).
As it currently stands we are ahead of you then, the same as we were 5, 10, 15 years ago. The margin of victory is irrelevant as a means of determining progress. We could finish 1 point ahead of you, and 15 points the next season. Football is not so cut and dried as you think. And how do you measure progress? By looking at your own club in terms of the competition.
Not to be a party pooper but is there a need to have a thread entitled "Laugh at spurs" when we have problems of our own? Scraping to 3rd position by 1 point and then losing our best player and captain is hardly an occasion to take the p1ss. What's worse is this thread has reached 20 pages!!!
The divvy spuds come on here giving it the big one about how great they are. When you ask them to prove it they got nothing. repeat ad infinitum " well you only finished one point above us." The point , my spuddy friends is we ALWAYS finish above you. Year in year out. Even when , this year we had a cataclysmic breakdown and you were all laughing particularly hard. I seem to recall that we were not even relevant as you were now focused on WINNING the league ffs . We STILL reeled you in . Facts are hard to dismiss aint they.
Why not? They are our rivals and it's all part of the fun. This is like our banter thread (see Liverpool/United board). If we can't laugh at the misfortunes of our rivals, then what can we do? This thread was created after the CL final, and if we could not laugh at them then, when could we? Also, instead of having the Arsenal/Spurs chat pop up in different threads, we can just use this big one to talk about all that stuff. If you do not like it, then just ignore the thread.
Oh and as an example of how to overdo the Spurs talk and all that, just need to look at how Chelsea board used to be/is. They had too many threads about them and it looked stupid. Here we just have this one big thread on the first page.
We are looking to utilise him as back up to Benny instead of Rose. My football knowledge is quite adequate thanks. Utd have taken Sheringham, Carrick and Berbs as far as i'm aware in 13years. City have Taure, Nasri, Cliche and Ade from you and are looking to nick VP.... Who's who's biatch now? If fergy wants him back, or wants modric he can have em...for a price. Berbs and carrick were well overpriced, as was Keano.