Then be astounded. No team would release a player that can score 10 premier league goals. That would be madness. It is about risk- both of our strikers have proven they can score at this level. We have a strike force that came seventh in the league last season. Not only that, the two we have are in the top 22 strikers in the country. I.e., to guarantee a better player, we would have to spend £12m. Bear in mind that Holt's transfer value is around £6m and Morison's is £4-5m, so actually, Superman's figure of around £12m isn't that much of an increase. You are also forgetting that technical players are charged at a premium over players that can be very effective. With all due respect, I understand what you want, but what you want is completely unrealistic to the point of delusion. Come back in 3/4 years if we are still in the prem, debt free and a 35k stadium, and I may be agreeing with you. Have you taken no note of the inflated transfer fees going around at the moment? You would have to be living in a bubble not to realise that strikers are very expensive.
last season we used in total 15-18 million on transfers apparently say the club and if you work it out aswell. i think we will have 20 million but he will leave some of that for January. romours that james Vaughn on loan to birmingham for season a sweet up for curtis davis. so thats another striker that we won't have. i think we need morrison and jackson and 1 more with pace to help out. well thats what i think anyway. with all these midfielders we have i can see some leaving . i do think we need only 1 more defender and 1 more striker if jackson and morrison stay i think thats all we need now.
Why, when people disagree with carrabuh, do they descend to personal attacks? We are here to exchange ideas and debate issues. Carrabuh's may appear unorthodox to some of us, or eccentric, or unrealistic, or ill-founded, but that's precisely why it's good to have him back and posting on our forum.
We actually have a bit less than last season because of the bullet interest repayment at the end of this one. We also have had to pay compensation for Birmingham's entire coaching staff- these are new signings in and of themselves. We have increased several major players' contracts, this will eat into the budget. The club (particularly Bowkett I think) has a habit of overstating the budget and the spend. I agree that if Vaughan is out on loan we need another striker signed, definitely. All I'm saying is that if we do sign another striker, I hope that it will be someone young, with potential who we can train and massively increase the value of, rather than someone at the peak of their powers who will be expensive and just a wasting asset. As for other signings, look at our fullbacks and the loss of Whitbread- I think we need back-ups in both these positions and a few people are calling for a defensive mid, which I agree with. I wouldn't mind a bit of a splash on another winger to give Bennett and Pilkington some competition too.
people saying we have no money we get 90 million from premiership every season included are tv rights. our debts mcnally says will be cleared by the end of next season. also we have not used much on transfers for a few years now. so i think 20+ million for the whole total for season is about correct. so we are getting alot of money in and not using much. championship turnover for the year we was there was 23.5million but last season our turnover was 75 million you can find info on this on the agm details for the accounts they put on canaries.co.uk after each financial year
No, it's 90m over four years with promotion, that's not quite how it works. Our turnover this season will be in the region of £70m, as you say later, not £90m. You're right about the debts, but that also means that we will have a lot more money next season, not this. I'm not saying we don't have money, we are rolling in it compared to the Championship, but we still have to be realistic- most clubs in the prem have more. And judging by Southampton and West Ham have been spending, they are out of our financial league too.
To translate: "Are you an complete idiot? And you obviously don't know much about football". Not just this thread by the way.
harsh robbie. there are an awful lot of mis-informed comments on this thread rob is the only one talking total sense here
Robbie you said I made personal attacks. Those are not personal. They are sarcastic, which you might find distasteful, but they are not personal. Your translation is entirely your own interpretation, there is no hint of that at all. The statement about Jackson is entirely conditional too. I apologise if that is your reading of them, and I am happy to amend them, but I honestly believe your criticism of those statements is not accurate. I certainly don't remember making any personal comments about anyone else on threads other than this (except for my argument with Colu-mike, but that I assumed was entirely jovial!)
It is perfectly possible to argue a point without descending to comments directed at the person rather than his views. Is it "harsh" to point that out?
i thought rob made perfectly rational statements, especially in the context that carrabuh labels league one players as 'monkeys'
its not 90million a season just looked at info on money for last season follow link follow this page here is what every club got at the end of last in money split in tv and prize money we are likely to get 30-45 million every season. we get paid for equal (every club get the same) , merit (what position we Finnish in), facility also we get money for overseas tv we got most from that last season 18 million follow link to see money details for last season: http://fettesmanagement.wordpress.com/2012/05/18/where-the-money-went-20112012/
My translation: - We are not as wealthy as a lot of people seem to think (and at times the Board would have us believe) I have re-iterated this a number of times on this thread, in that context it should be read. - Morison is not as poor as people assume just because of his performances in the second half of the season. He is consistently underrated by us (and Arsenal...) - Jackson has an impact on the pitch that is not immediately obvious to anyone simply watching the ball. If you take the time to look beyond that, you will see he actually can be very effective for the team I appreciate that I could have phrased it better, so I apologise for that, but I can assure you there is nothing personal involved there.
That's what I said. We don't get £90m a season- you said that in your post: "people saying we have no money we get 90 million from premiership every season" I was saying we don't - our turnover is around the £70m mark.
I read somewhere a few weeks ago that our transfer fee budget had been raised from 10 to 12mil and our wage budget had been raised by a further 10mil. Also the talk of us spending between 10 and 15mil last summer and another 5mil in january is slightly incorrect because people are using the final value as the sum that we signed them for but infact we should only use the upfront/main fee. Like howson who we only paid 750k upfront rising to 2 mil. You also have to remember that there could have been a survival fee put into transfers so if we stayed up we then pay an amount to the other club. I hope i make sense
people seem to have forgotten that we have to pay off our debts at the end of next april too. lets get this ironed out - we are not poor, but we are certainly not rich. we have a relatively good transfer budget (£10-12m - which is comparable to many premier league teams) over the whole of the season, and a very low wage budget. we are still shopping in the bargain bins and until we get a) survival guaranteeing us the new and improved tv deal and most importantly b) a capacity raise to 35k, this shall continue to be the case. rob, agree with everything you've said, especially about jackson and morison. holty's boots is also correct.
i now know it was a mistake i didn't know that so a least i found out we are guaranteed to get around 32 million with the equal share of 13,788,093 also a guaranteed overseas tv price of 18,764,644 thats 32 miliion already just money for facility fees and the money you get for position you get in league left we got 6,795,558 for 12th place and 6,254,772 for facility fees so we got in total last season : 45,603,067 good amount of money isn't it hope to get around same place or better next season would be great.
