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RVP: Sell and reinvest or keep and risk! Poll

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Cb, Jul 4, 2012.

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RVP Stance

Poll closed Jul 7, 2012.
  1. Sell and Reinvest

    76.9%
  2. Keep and risk

    23.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. gent

    gent Well-Known Member

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    He had a great season. So ****ing what? Why should he think that he's entitled to a club being run the way he wishes it to be run?

    You think that this is a good precedent that any ****ing player that has a good season should be in the position to influence how a club is run?
     
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  2. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    This coming from a Chelsea fan? Oh the irony...
     
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  3. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia
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    I've just seen a post on Twitter.It said "let him go to city but not for money,swap him for De Jong and Zabaleta"
     
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  4. gent

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    Wow you are naive.

    I'm saying that if he cared about the club (which i don't doubt) he would have ample time to speak about the situation after his potential transfer. He did so after he actually hurt the club he "loves".


    So the best way to care about a club is to make it known to the market that he will absolutely, definitively leave next season, so interested teams shouldn't bother with a decent price? Right, thanks RVP!
     
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  5. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    I really think you are reading too much into this. If RVP is going and his statement really precipitates that, then why does he care about shaking things up? He is showing his love for the club by leaving when the club offers him the largest salary they have ever offerred anyone? That is messed up.

    These cliches about a club lacking ambition are really difficult to take seriously for me. Wenger and the board must be absolute geniuses if they can judge exactly the right investment to finish in the top 3 or 4, but not win anything!

    I can't say that I really feel that we could have signed anyone last year that moved, and didn't join a mega-rich club, and would have improved us 19 points. And many of the ones that did move might have made us significantly worse. It just doesn't add up. We continually finish behind clubs that have more money, higher wages, and have just laid out hundreds of millions in transfer money. As we have seen loyalty counts for nothing.

    It really has nothing to do with ambition, it is all about money. Clubs like Manchester City can afford to buy players simply so that they don't play for anyone else.
     
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  6. gent

    gent Well-Known Member

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    If his intentions weren't as clear, and the market had doubts that he might decide to extend the contract? 25 - 30 mil easily.

    Now? Up to 15 mil probably.
     
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  7. Drogs

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    Oh dear <doh>. You have totally misunderstood.
     
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  8. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    Ok, even if he didn't make this statement, there is no guarantee that we'd still get that much money for him, or that he would leave (he says nothing about leaving, nor does Wenger want him to), or that we would get a suitable replacement. You make a lot of assumptions my friend. What is a fact is we'll NEVER get a player close to his quality, period. We are better keeping him and making the most of it.
     
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  9. gent

    gent Well-Known Member

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    He doesn't have to say he will leave.

    He is captain for ****s sake. How dignified a season can he have if he stays? We get a new captain, Wenger starts rotating the forwards to give the new guys time to adapt. So at the end of it RVP might end up a free agent at 30, with a season with less than 20 starts!

    You think he would accept that? **** no... he knows he will leave this season, there is no way for him to stay in a dignified way and without hurting team morale.
     
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  10. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    We have to wait and see. Who knows, there maybe another twist in this saga....
     
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  11. Not PC enough

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    Yeah and we got absolutely nothing back in return last season did we. ? <whistle>

    You think they spent that money cos they love his personality ?

    How can you say he is ungrateful , he sees no chance of winning stuff with the way we are playing.

    Frankly , neither do i .

    Hes not a 20 year old , time is running out for him to win tangible things besides the golden boot.

    I dont begrudge the guy anything.

    Im old enough to have seen "indispensible " players come and go.

    The game goes on without them .
     
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  12. goonercymraeg

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    Well i suspose i can always remember him as a one season wonder <ok>
     
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  13. Not PC enough

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    seems like the board value him as such .

    Quite content to see him walk .
     
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  14. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    This takes fickleness to another level. I think everyone needs to re-watch a DVD of our entire season and see how bad we've been. Injuries or no injuries, there are no excuses for some of the performances from some of our players. RVP's goals were not the only thing he contributed to our season. Why do you think Wenger and co went out and bought the Pod and Giroud so quickly? Because without RVP, we would be bloody awful next season.
     
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  15. Gooner91

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    Sell for £20m+ and reinvest into more depth in our squad.

    We can't keep him, fans are turning against him and who knows whether he will stay injury free throughout the whole year again.
     
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  16. Not PC enough

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    you are correct , i cant see how he could continue to play even one more game.

    Some morons are bound to boo him .

    very Short memories .
     
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  17. Not PC enough

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    I think you misunderstand me , i am not fickle in the slightest , im a pragmatist.

    Im not saying that I am quite happy to see him walk. But that the board are .
     
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  18. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't talking to you but agreeing with you. I was addressing it to the rest.
     
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  19. Bidley

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    Fulham fan in peace.

    I was disappointed to see this. As fan of a club looking at losing possibly two of our best players (Dempsey and Dembele) I can empathise. But you've come back from similar departures (Viera, Flamini, Henry, Fabregas) and done the business. Retaining top-four status is nothing to be sniffed at, ask Liverpool and Chelsea fans. You've signed two exciting players in Podolski and Giroud, I say let him go and look to the future. You'll be fine.

    Good luck for next season.
     
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  20. lazarus20000

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    This would truly pee me off if fans did this after his amazing season. This is a sign of a classless fan.
     
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