Why was an important thread, be it rumours or not, about the state of Charlton, deleted...? Believe what you want but as said there's no smoke without fire... Especially if you consider that much of the bad news is coming from posters who usually only don rose coloured specs regarding all things Charlton... There's a lot of speculation... latest thing I read was this on wiki:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Jimenez "In May 2012 Jimenez brokered a deal to sell on Charlton Athletic FC to a dubai based property/investment company. The deal was rejected by other members of the current board at Charlton Athletic FC as it would mean relinquishing 100% to Zabeel Investments. As a result of this Jimenez is looking to sell his stake in the club and recoup his investment. This is the second time Zabeel Investments has attempted to acquire Charlton Athletic FC and it is widely believed in the UAE that they will make one more bid in July 2012 for 100% control before exploring other options in the London sporting investment market." ... Probably not true as it was removed from the page, but as usual nothing ever seems to be rosy at Charlton, yet nobody here wants to discuss the possibilities...?
I can edit that wiki page to say that he is a firestarter. A twisted firestarter. As for why the post was removed- it was started by a banned member. Who knows if a man upstairs wants to sell, but if TJ did want to, he can only sell 28%. I'm still sticking to the fact we aren't in this whole heap of mess which is being suggested.
The proliferation of these types of threads which are without any factual foundation but based on heresay and social media gossip are damaging to the club as they can put off recruitment targets, impressionable young players, particularly if they believe everything they read. I fully support the Moderators in removing content of this nature whomever the poster and hope they carry on doing so.
What transfer targets? Those we have supposedly missed out on will be 95% of the time down to the usual reason, Money... So discussing the state of our clout, whether people like it or not, is relevant. People having their posts removed, whether it's within a banned posters thread or not, isn't respecting that persons time, opinion & freedom of speech. Enjoy your closed shop!
You've started a new discussion, just to walk away? Strange. Sorry if you're offended by it, but the reason it was pulled was due to the fact JA is banned, not because we aren't willing to discuss the matter. Add that to complaints received then we were left with no option. On this subject, I think there needs to be some perspective. We're investing more money in to joining a new youth league, Cawley confirms we bid just under a million for Shackell, key players are signing new deals and there could well be some more good news on a re-signing front this week (non playing staff). I'm amazed that none of the journo's who are in with the club/owner (Darren Lewis, Cawley, Dan Roan etc) have picked up on the supposed going ons. It has all come from 50 different sources saying 50 different things. I can understand the fearful nature people adopt when it comes to CAFC, but at times I think we are our own worst enemies and create/exaggerate problems that aren't there.
Yes I much prefer a closed shop, then you don't get tittle tattle and this sort of rubbish put up by let's face it people who want to destabilise the club. These supporters are not really fans, they don't really care about the future of the club but want to jump on every little thing they see is social media and live on unsubstantiated gossip rather than facts.
Who said I was walking away...? I was responding to Charltonpat's post, who in a nutshell blamed social media for putting off transfer targets & rejoiced in peoples posts being removed because he didn't agree with them He didn't mention any banned poster, and if he had I repeat my original sentiment... In respect of people that have taken the time to write, and don't like being censored for no good reason, couldn't you just have deleted the banned persons posts within the thread? If not I can only assume you enjoy the closed shop Charltonpat was championing.
No. Not if they start the thread, you'd have to delete the whole thread to do so. (Well, at least it works that way on every forum I've modded on)
I think that was the first ever thread deleted. We've closed a few before (for breaking of rules), but re-initiating JA's ban seemed to delete it. Back on topic - aren't the accounts released sometime soon (if not already)? Would anyone on here know anything about that, as it provided a lot of information last year, I.E Slater owning 23% and TJ 28%.
... and Murray still owns 10%. Newall's name has now popped up as another. The point is we've had this secret backer since the takeover and that has never filled me with confidence... Owning a football club should carry kudos, which endears the backer to fans for being loud & proud... Instead we're left wondering what his motives are, and whether he's hedging his bets for other football investments... Yeah a lot of you won't like that because there are no facts, but that's the problem when we have secrecy as our leader. The thread that was deleted touched on Peter Varney... Now what were his reasons for leaving? Nothing has been relayed officially to us fans. Don't any of you think that's a tad strange? Maybe nothing to worry about, but until we hear real good news. people will make their own minds up, and thank goodness for that.
There isn't one secret backer. Accounts show a minimum of 4 As for Varney, it was said he only planned to stay on for 2 years, but decided to step down a bit earlier. Why? I don't know for certain, but those around the club don't seem to think it's suspicious.
Four people, Whose intentions for the club are...? Support secrecy if you want, I'm having nothing to with it, not until I see & hear these people say what they want for our club. Don't you think it's strange that Varney didn't make some sort of statement himself, for the fans who hold him in high regard?
No idea. Those who worked with him don't seem to be, so I'm trying not to read in to it. Also, I'm not supporting secrecy, just not buying in to the crisis. Everything which SLater has said the board will do for the club has come to fruition so I'm inclined to put some trust in to what he says. We just obviously disagree on the matter.
You sound like a spoilt child always wanting your own way, first it was iwantatakeover then iwantabettertakeover. Presumably you didn't want the club to go into administration which it would've done last season without new ownership. Your posts are not based on any proven fact, if they are you don't have any credible sources of note other than a poster who mainly posts inane tabloid type rubbish and social media twitter gossips whose agenda, like yours, is sensationalism and strir, stir, stir. Then you use free speech to further discredit the club and its owners, management and structure. I don't think most serious fans are interested in or pay any attention to your sabre rattling.
If you can find four people who are willing to invest money but don't want success then you have found the keys to the asylum! Any backer will be investing for success which will mean a return on their money when they sell. They won't do this by letting the club fail and appear to be investing further in the youth set up which should generate funds for the club to be a success elsewhere. If the club fails they won't get their money back - simple market economy truth
... and what have I said that you don't agree with precisely...? Just stay in your closed mind feller.. Your first post in this thread proved that your all for censorship if you don't agree with how things go...
.. or perhaps they've invested to cash in some other way... Perhaps get planning permission for the Valley, it could be anything...Not saying what they will do, but whilst we have secret backers it all remains in realms of theory.
Take what you want from it, but this echo's everything I've been told and have tried to relay (nowhere near as good as this). http://chicagoaddick.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/is-peter-varney-leaving-a-surprise/
