It is Nat'han. If the name was Naðan it would be easier for you as ð is like th in father. We also have à which is like th in the but that is generally at the begining of words, at the end it is writen as ð. For me a diphthong is for vowels and semi vowels like æ and já.
Capital punishment - the clue is in the name, it was never meant to be a deterrent for others, it was meant as a punishment to rid society of those who make society an unsafe place to live for others. And as for an eye for an eye not working - it most certainly does work, those who receive the punishment most certainly do not re-offend. Whereas, those who receive and serve jail sentences and then released are most certainly 'free' to re-offend - and very often do. I'll wager that the incidence of recidivism is far, far higher than the incidence of wrongful conviction. You'll gather from this that I support the idea of capital punishment. IMO we as a society have reached a point where anything else is both unsustainable and detrimental to future generations. I don't expect that we will ever live in a utopian world where crime doesn't exist, but something has to happen when we are fast appproaching the opposite end of that particular spectrum and those rose-tinted glasses have turned to blinkers. And for the politicians who bleat on about the 'sanctity of human life', tell me again why you choose to train and send your people to war, to kill and be killed - you can't have it both ways. As for euthanasia - well we all apparently have the right to life, so why not the right to death? I fail to see why we can deny anyone that and force them into a life of pain, suffering and indignity simply to fit in with someone elses ideal. To put it simply, it should be down to the individual to choose and others to butt out.
Sorry Bolton Boots but you and me will never agree - I think you need to look at the facts - of course capital punishment means someone convicted of a capital crime won't commit it again - but it doesn't stop others committing it and in the case of rape - in the USA - in the states where it is a capital crime more victims end up being murdered proportionately than they do in the states where it isn't a capital crime - so by supporting capital punishment in this instance you are also supporting increasing murders. As i said most perpetrators of murder do it by mistake - thats a fact - you should meet some of them they aren't what you expect. And what about political murder - are you saying you support that too?
There is another problem with captital punishment - juries are less likely to convict than if life senetence is the punishment. So a murderer is more likely to get away with murder because the jurors do not want the responsibility of getting it wrong.
I agree that we'll never agree. But to reiterate, capital punishment was never meant as a deterrent - it was a punishment. But if you insist on the view that the sentence handed down is a deterrent, jail hasn't been particularly successful either - since abolition of the death penalty in 1964 in the UK, the murder rate has doubled. By political murder I'm assuming you mean assassination - and yes I would support that too. Even today, there are plenty of deserving cases - mostly in, but not limited to, Africa where the dual aim of many a dictator has been, and currently is, the genocide of rival tribes and the impoverishment of their own.
At first reading I thought you were supporting murdering politicians BB - now that is something that should be welcomed a bit more!
No argument from me there. We should start with the millionaire posh ones - the ones who have no idea of the misery their impositions are causing out here in the real world. Wouldn't be surprised to see serious crime rates rocket too.......
I'd start with all career politicians - any that have not had a real job before climbing on the gravy train. That would capture your requirement and pick up people like the Kinnock dynasty as well...and by a real job I don't mean a city directorship or being paid by the RMT.
Prison as a deterrent from any crime is clearly not working. Re-offending rates are at an all time high[1], and people are regularly becoming career criminals simply because it is an easier life than an honest one. A person can be locked up for a year for a fight and he will receive 3 square meals per day, a heated room, a bed for the night and free education and programs to get back to work when they are released. [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18188610 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/reoffending-rates-at-record-high-7785077.html
Murder is the crime of deliberately killing someone in a pre-medidated way. Your claim can only be a "fact" if the majority of convicted murderers should have instead been convicted of manslaughter.
If I remember my law correctly, for it to be murder you must have 'Mens Rea' and 'Actus Reus', meaning the thought to do it, and the act! Without 'means rea', it would be manslaughter, as you did not intend to kill someone, but you have the 'actus reus', the act of killing someone Vice-versa would be attempted murder - you intended to kill someone but you didn't actually 'achieve' this.
I don't really like the manslaughter sentence. Example - If you push someone over... 99.99% of the time nothing will happen, not even the police. Then that one time.... you push them over and they die! You just mean to push them, but you end up with manslaughter. It's hard to think of a better alternative.... but a sentence and criminal record etc. being based on luck is unfortunate. For me, a criminal shouldn't be someone who does something by accident.. at least if the accident is something that millions of "innocent" people would also do.
There are many different kinds of manslaughter. The main 2 headings are Voluntary and Involuntary. Voluntary M/s is then broken down to Loss of self control and Diminished responsibility Involuntary M/s is broken down into Unlawful act M/s, Gross Negligence M/s, Reckless M/s and Corporate M/s. In theory a simple push should not constitute an offence. However, the CPS are cunning and can sometimes manipulate the facts to meet the requirements for reckless M/s.
Actually Mens Rea doesn't prevent someone being convicted of murder - all it means is that at some point you had to think to act intentionally - my point is that in most cases the perpetrator didn't mean to set out to kill someone in advance - as in the cases I have worked with over the years - it is a fact most have acted once they have got themselves in a situation such as an argument (often with people they know such as partners or friends) and then they act once they have got to a point of anger - they don't mean to kill up to the point but do get convicted of murder not manslaughter The point I make about political life sentences doesn't refer to assassinations but to those people across the globe both now and in the past sentenced to political murder (capital punishment) because of their beliefs, their ideologies, or their race. Baby hornet - I suggest that you have never been in a prison - based upon your comment - treating people with dignity is a first step in changing their behaviour - if you don't do that then you can never start to get any change as they remain resentful. Anyway i don't expect to persuade everyone but I'll stick with my beliefs.
