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The 2012 Formula 1 Grand Prix of Europe Official Chat & Predictions

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by u408379965, Jun 16, 2012.

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Who will win the European Grand Prix?

Poll closed Jun 21, 2012.
  1. Lewis Hamilton

    25.7%
  2. Fernando Alonso

    17.1%
  3. Sebastian Vettel

    34.3%
  4. Mark Webber

    2.9%
  5. Nico Rosberg

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Kimi Raikkonen

    2.9%
  7. Romain Grosjean

    2.9%
  8. Jenson Button

    2.9%
  9. Sergio Perez

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Pastor Maldonado

    2.9%
  11. Kamui Kobayashi

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Paul di Resta

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Bruno Senna

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. Michael Schumacher

    8.6%
  15. Other (Please state)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Delete Me

    Delete Me Well-Known Member

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    Seb setting the fastest first sector after a race stint on the hard tyre and then getting caught up in traffic.

    Not bad, not bad.
     
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  2. Delete Me

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    And HRT showing why they're the laughing stock of F1 by not designing a car that can turn right...
     
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  3. EternalMSC

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    The guy on Sky Sports with David Croft is not bad.
     
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  4. Sportydan

    Sportydan Active Member

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    We could say the same about Sauber then <whistle>
     
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  5. TheModestMatt

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    A Red Bull, Force India, Sauber, Mercedes, Willams occupy the top 5 as they all start high fuel runs. McLaren down in 12th and 14th and Ferrari 7th and 15th. Its a crazy season alright.
     
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  6. EternalMSC

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    **** knows whats going on right now hahaha.
     
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  7. di Fredsta!

    di Fredsta! Well-Known Member

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    There's always Nascar!
     
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  8. Delete Me

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    So far dangerously tight!

    8 tenths from first to fourteenth...
     
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  9. Eat Sleep Watch F1 Repeat

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    Really hoping Mclaren are sand bagging.
     
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  10. EternalMSC

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    Surprised Lewis didn't get p1 actually, he normally does that on a Friday...
    I think the grid is too mixed up to be true.

    My Quali Predictions: VETTEL/HAMILTON/WEBBER.
     
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  11. Di Resta is faster than u

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    This is the hardest to predict

    Vettel in the upgraded Red-Bull, Maldonado in spanish GP winning williams, both Lotuses in "their best chance yet" race, Alonso, Schumacher on evidence of Monaco,

    I have no idea.
     
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  12. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    With some unexpected free time, I have had the pleasure of listening to Legard again!
    Bearing in mind that he has been granted a reprieve by the BBC, the irrelevant crap he came out with is quite unbelievable…
     
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  13. TheModestMatt

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    I dont think they are, theyre're just paying the price of bringing no upgrades since Spain.
     
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  14. EternalMSC

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    No Mercedes will have a chance this weekend, Monaco was a driver track and thus an anomoly.. the car influences much more here. A Canada replay will occur.
     
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  15. Forza Bianchi

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    Vettel looks to be the most confident. It's worth noting he (and others) set their fastest lap much later than Alonso, Button and Hamilton.

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  16. Delete Me

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    Rosberg beat Buttons option time on the prime, so I dont think Button is holding out that much.
     
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  17. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    You having a laugh?
    What did Vettel set his times on, and what did the Mercs do their times on please?
     
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  18. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Just realised my complaints about about Grosjeans Nationality have got through to the BBC!!

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  19. Delete Me

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    Option, fueled and on first timed lap I think.

    He was also beating Maldonado's time after a race stint on the prime tyre during FP1 but got held up by traffic and I gather he backed off after that.



    Bilds thoughts on the top 3's upgrades:

    Red Bull with a double diffuser-trick


    Red Bull, Ferrari and McLaren have brought new technology in Valencia updates to the car. Of particular interest is the accurate view of the world championship winning car: Red Bull designer Adrian Newey has read the regulations again exactly and installed a kind of double diffuser.

    The technology race is at the GP of Europe in full swing. Here, the second great wave of development had been expected only in England. Nearly all teams have been upgraded for Silverstone. But already in Valencia, the three big teams were active.

    McLaren tried in the car of Lewis Hamilton a further evolution of the new rear axle. "We hope that tomorrow the parts are there for the second car," says team boss Martin Whitmarsh.




    Ferrari presents part three of the engineering offensive

    Ferrari modified the Frontflügelendplatten, the exhaust, the engine cover and underbody. There is as yet only a test. "If the parts work, they stay tuned. If not, we will optimize it to Silverstone," said a Ferrari spokesman.

    Fernando Alonso is encouraging: "For the last four races brings each new part, it worked in the wind tunnel, on the race track the progress expected we can again fully rely on our tools that was in the past two years, not always the case... "



    Red Bull with a new rear

    The most interesting development was but Red Bull a kind of double underbody. To half of the side boxes opens just above the bottom plate via two openings in the air the car. Lead from there to the right and left two channels to the rear, where the air is discharged through the diffuser and the starter hole.

    This should have the effect of a larger expansion channel, as well as at the time of the double diffuser. The trick is the letter of the regulations for legal. For a range of 100 millimeters above the reference plane is not the 75 millimeter radius rule. So you can install a channel across from the car.



    Newey plays back with air channels

    It is not the first time that Newey experimented with channels through the car. At the start of the season, he presented a solution in which the advent of air disappeared on the side pods under the disguise and 30 centimeters above the diffuser again later resigned. It can be seen as a kind of forerunner of the current configuration. The entry holes were much smaller, the shorter channels.

    This half-Newey solution was then dropped on the nose. The driver complained of instability on the rear axle. Then the channel was clogged up. Now everyone is anxious to see if the second attempt worked. Peter Sauber groans: "We see little parallel development teams are on the verge of gray areas is not financially feasible."


    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...ed-bull-mit-doppeldiffusor-trick-5065494.html
     
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  20. Di Resta is faster than u

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    Ferrari modified the Frontflügelendplatten

    oh good.
     
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