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BBC Formula 1's greatest drivers. Number 13: Nigel Mansell

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  1. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    SARCASM - come on Cosi - you should know me better than that.
    Shunt was a lot of fun - but NOT AMONG THE GREATS.
     
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  2. tomcat606

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    The BBC describes it this way:

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    This year, BBC Sport is profiling 20 of the greatest Formula 1 drivers of all time. The BBC F1 team were asked to give their own personal top 20s, which were combined to produce a BBC list. Veteran commentator Murray Walker provides his own reflections in a video of their career highlights and chief F1 writer Andrew Benson profiles the driver.
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  3. Kyle?

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    Mansell was british, he could do no wrong in their eyes.
     
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  4. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    Surely, Kyle; you're not suggesting that a self-promoting authority which also happens to be the leading propaganda arm of the British Government system is anything less than objective? Perhaps instead, Rupert Murdoch should have been presenting a case for greatness amongst men?
    :)

    Note to Bergy: I admit your sarcasm went over my head, initially. ;)

    As I said, I was not aware of your nationality –sarcasm also being a peculiarly British humour!
     
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  5. Nazara

    Nazara Active Member

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    Even so... James Hunt was a brilliant character and racer (his racing talents were every bit as good) in Formula One and his personality and ways (let's face it, we would all love to have as many women as Hunt did) will be long missed even after this generation and the next ends in the sport.
     
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  6. Kyle?

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    You raise a great point, we need some playboys in F1, the current drivers are too serious.
     
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  7. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    We had a couple until not so long ago. One of them was a good racing driver too!

    Doris Day
    Eddie Irvine
    Gerhard Berger

    For your chance to win the chance for the chance to win a personally signed sarcastic comment from Yours Not Trulli, simply choose the playboy/good racing driver from the list above…
     
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  8. Drudeboy

    Drudeboy Well-Known Member

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    anyone read mansell's autobiography? incredible story. sure its biased, but still
     
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  9. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    talking of playboys, alledgedly Tommy Byrns turned up to his McLaren test drive with a prostitute and a bit coked up, went out and set one of the fastest times ever around silverstone. It didn't go down well with RD.
     
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    Aah good old Tommy. I'd forgotten about him! You're right Miggins; he very much fits the bill –even better than Doris Day. Superb guy and totally crazy. We used to call him 'Crash and Byrne'. Total nutter but very very quick. Some might even argue he has a genuine place in the BBC's list! (Then again of course, being anti-establishment, he's got no chance…)
    ;)

    P.S. It's Byrne, not Byrns.
     
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  11. happyal

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    I don't think they should include any current F1 driver, as it's pretty much impossible to say how good they are while still racing. The only exception could be Schumacher who obviously belongs near the top of any unbiased list.

    For example lets take Lewis. I think he career could go either way at the moment. He could slip into obscurity and his place at number 15 on this list will look a little silly. More likely he’ll have a very good career and will end up somewhere inside the top 10, but it’s far to early to say if he’s one of F1’s greatest drivers.
     
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  12. BrightLampShade

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    Theres 3 ways to use statistics:

    -Accept them at face value = Wrong
    -Completely ignore them = Missing out of interesting/useful information
    -Or see them in context = A powerful tool

    Kind of a random comment you may think but stats are often mentioned in these sorts of threads. Some choose to solely use them whilst others completely discount them, and in my opinion neither of those methods are right :)
     
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  13. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    Pitlane comments infer Berger got a lot more than prime beef in a sandwich around the circuits. ..<laugh>
     
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    I tend to find stats are completely meaningless unless they back up my point. <ok>
     
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    87.2% of stats are all made up anyway
     
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  16. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    that one certainly was.
     
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    "Arrogant, conceited, brilliant - we might miss the driver but we will not miss the man" Frank Williams on Mansell leaving his team for the second time<laugh>
     
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  18. cosicave

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    I've strongly disagreed with Frank about a few things but his concise comment on Mansell is about as perfect as I can imagine.
     
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    Don't care what anybody says about Mansell... Fantastic driver and took part in some phenomenal battles. Thoroughly entertaining to watch!
     
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  20. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    My dad slapped me for laughing when he went out in Aus in '86 giving my (then) man Prost the title. It's not that I'm unpatriotic, I just didn't like Mansell.
     
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