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Sunday 17th June Daily Thread

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by ROTO, Jun 16, 2012.

  1. ROTO

    ROTO Well-Known Member

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    4.40 Doncaster

    Collateral Damage 12/1 NAP


    Its so obvious that Tim Easterby's 9 year old has been the subject of some "tender handling" to say the least and I think today is the day that he will be unleashed with a return a Doncaster course where he has registered a win at before. Formerly a very talented animal, Collateral Damage started the 2010 season being a 96 rated animal and although winless since 2009 he's clearly incredibly well handicapped off a mark of 69 - the lowest of his entire career. His last win came off a mark of 92 in November 2009 and he is now a full 23lb lower than that mark making him thrown in on his old form. More recently than that, he came a good 3rd in a Class 3 event on ground that probably wasn't ideal at Catterick last May off a mark of 82 and although he probably isn't the force of old he doesn't have to be win this. In relation to this year, I would suggest anyone watch his last efforts in particular his two most recent 4ths at Beverley and you'll understand what I mean. On both occasions, then jockey David Allan basically tried to find as much trouble as he possibly could and never once went for the whip as he started flying late on under hands and heels riding. Those efforts came off marks of 75 & 73 and I'm pretty sure he would be more than capable of winning off those marks but I think connections have gotten him down to a mark where he could possibly reel of a sequence of victories.

    In relation to todays contest, Collateral Damage contests a Class 4 contest which is a far throw from the Class 2 contests he was contesting earlier in his career. The three main reasons why I think connections will strike today are he is on a career low mark, he returns to a course where he has winning form and most importantly is the ground. The current soft conditions are amazingly going to be the first time he has encountered ground that hasn't contained the description 'good' since 2009. The last twice he has raced on soft ground or worse were actually his last two wins so thats a massive eye catching note in my eyes. Duran Fentiman takes the ride for the first time since 2009 as he gets in off a featherweight of 8-5 and both look extremely positive notes. Another key factor in my eyes is he has 3 more entries over the next 5 days which definitely gives potential to my theory that connections are looking to notch up a very quick sequence of victories. Trainer Tim Easterby is in good form at present with two winners yesterday and he clearly has his horses in good order. Although its clearly not ideal that he is winless in 31 months, he is clearly extremely well weighted and the soft ground should be the making of him. I'm having a rather large e/w on him as I'm pretty confident that he'll be going all out for victory today and I think he could prove extremely difficult to beat if Fentiman lets the foot off the breaks today.
     
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  2. stick

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    The 9-4 about OUR JONATHAN 4.00 Salisbury tomorrow is stunning value. Best horse in this listed race by some way and loves to et his toe in. Make them pay!
     
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  3. rainbowview

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    KISjolSED will win the French Oaks or whatjvbghever you want to call it. O'Briens k,best filly without doubt <ok>. Never mi ndsjd the odds on frog ,o <ok>
     
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  4. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Have you been celebrating RV?
     
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    He's just typing in Geordie Ron LOL
     
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    Translated to English as follows;

    KISSED, will win the French Oaks or whatever you wish to call it (PRIX DE DIANE). Aiden O'Briens best filly without a doubt. Never mind the odds on French horse (BEAUTY PARLOUR).
     
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    I like DALKALA myself. Unbeaten also and still open to any amount of improvement.
     
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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    &#1040;&#1093; - &#1101;&#1090;&#1086;, &#1095;&#1090;&#1086; &#1101;&#1090;&#1086; &#1075;&#1086;&#1074;&#1086;&#1088;&#1080;&#1090;?
     
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    A race I'm really interested to see the result of. All three of the aforementioned fillies (Kissed, Beauty Parlour, Dalkala) are ones I particularly rate and I wouldn't like to call it. Any comfortable winner must have Arc hopes.
     
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    Fury at the same meeting has a big chance!
     
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  11. ROTO

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    3.35 Doncaster

    Damika 12/1

    If his draw in stall 6 isn't a grave issue, which we should find out in the race before this, and the effect of his visor hasn't worn off after its initial success then I think David Browns 9 year old could be extremely difficult to beat. After a string of duck egg, the introduction of a first time visor for Damika proved the oracle as he absolutely scooted home 3 days ago at Nottingham in a Class 2 event by 2L. Off a mark of 82, he made all after bagging the stands rail and he was very impressive. He races here with a 6lb penalty and I'd say he is well in at the weights as I'd say he's due to go up another few lbs for his last impressive win. Although that was his first win in nearly two years, he won off 94 in 2010 and on that evidence he certainly looks rather feasibly handicapped. He's dropped back into a Class 3 event which is a positive and the race he won the other day certainly looked pretty tough. The soft ground should be no concern at all as he has won on it before and he's also tactically versatile having won from being held up on occasions before. I think 12/1 definitely overstates his chances considering he has won two on the bounce twice before and if the draw isn't detrimental I can definitely see him going close to landing this competitive event.
     
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    2.50 Salisbury

    Titus Gent 8/1


    Put him up two starts back when running out an impressive winner on the AW off a mark of 79 from only a 2lb lower mark and I think you've got to ignore his last start. That day he was stepped into a Class 2 event off a mark of 83 and I don't think he handled Epsom's undulating track overly well. Todays race should be much easier as he drops back into a Class 4 handicap and a mark of 81 certainly doesn't seem beyond him. I think its very significant that Titus Gent is 2-2 in ground softer than good in his career, which he gets today, and 8/1 looks very overpriced. Raul Da Silva again takes off a very handy 5lb from Jeremy Gask's 7 year old and I expect him to go rather close to landing this event.

    3.50 Cork

    Remember Alexander 8/1


    If staying the 1m4f trip, I think Remember Alexander could be extremely difficult to beat in this Group 3 event. Up until now, this filly has never raced beyond 1m and although breeding doesn't really scream out for this extra step up in trip she has shaped as if it would suit and Jessie Harrington certainly must think she has a good chance of getting it which is good enough for me. To my eyes, Remember Alexander has by far the best form in her book to date. As a 2 year old, she finished 2L behind Power on debut before sauntering to success in a Group 3 at Leopardstown on soft ground beating the excellent Parish Hall and Tenth Star in that race. She made a pleasing reintroduction as a 3 year old this year when finishing 1.75L behind subsequent 1,000 Guineas winner Homecoming Queen before a solid 2.31L defeat by Yellow Rosebud on her last start. She has proven to love the testing conditions and although its no guarantee if staying out the trip I think this 3 year old filly with an entry in the Irish Oaks could prove very difficult to beat.
     
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    FFS man <laugh>. <cheers> for the translation Stick spot on.

    KISSED will win that easily today no doubt about it. Beauty Parlour is the most over rated filly in training they never shut up about her. UP would have had a right go at beating her last time out if not for the worst possible draw. I think Kissed is O'Briens best filly by a long way <ok>.
     
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  14. rainbowview

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    Not backing Kissed now - not so confident having looked at replays. Some good fillies in there - NO BET race for me now.
     
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    Afternoon guys just a flying visit, been told RIVA'S RHAPSODY 5.05 Salisbury wins today now only 7/4 but a winner's a winner good luck if you play :)
     
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  16. mick the jolly sailor

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    Not backing Kissed now - not so confident having looked at replays. Some good fillies in there - NO BET race for me now


    PMSL......best I've seen yet!!!!
     
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  17. mick the jolly sailor

    mick the jolly sailor Well-Known Member

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    Had a word for Quiz Mistress. 2.20 Salisbury.

    Dont like it myself....too much weight for me....but thought I'd pass it on regardless.
     
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  18. rainbowview

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    Mick at least I do it before the race <ok> ;)

    Stick to your info
     
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  19. Archers Road

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    Beauty Parlour won the Pouliches with any amount in hand. If, as her trainer expects, she improves for the step up in trip, she'll take a world of beating. Ground has to be a worry, and the price is hardly inviting, but I expect Soumillon to time her run to perfection/get away with murder, and win by a very comfortable length.
     
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  20. rainbowview

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    Performance here <ok>
     
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