**** it. It'll be a ride. Bizarrely, most of my best footballing memories outside the top 4 or 5 (Seville, CL knockout game against AC Milan, 6-2, winning the league in 98, getting over the line in O'Neill's first season) are from the period when we were absolutely gash. I know it was a different era and all the old grounds are gone but the greatest game I was ever at remains the 5-4 game at Brockville. A team challenging for the league should've beasted that Falkirk team but we were 4-2 down with ten minutes left and came back. You'll also get to find out who your real supporters are. There'll be no more corporate ****s in suits (well, fewer anyway) and you'll get to find out which supporters are willing to go through it all. *This is me trying to be a wee bit nice after ripping the pish all day.
That's how I see it. A Newco is exactly that and they start as a new football club with a clean sheet -they can buy and sell players if they can afford to do so, though where the money will come from is their big, seemingly insurmountable, problem. Their fate now as we all know, in regarding to where they will play, however, lies in the hands of the other clubs in the SPL - will be interesting to see how the Chairmen vote.
Exactly. If they want to dine at the top table and completely circumvent the league structure altogether, then they shall have to accept the penalties that would have been meted out to the now defunct Rangers FC as a sort of 'entrance fee'. I don't like it. I don't think any club should be allowed to skip leagues..
There may well be wheeling and dealing done behind the scenes within the SFA and between the club chairmen so at this stage who knows how it will pan out. The one Ace card, Rangers' hold, is the money they and their fans generate for the other clubs and I would not underestimate the power of that bargaining chip but if they, as a new club, are voted in, there will be a major price to pay and that may well involve a power shift among the SPL clubs as well as possibly other 'conditions' to which you have alluded. I agree however, I don't think any 'new' club should be allowed to jump straight into the SPL.
I know you won't consider it to be anything other than Rangers. You have been getting softened up for it for ages. This is all entirely predictable. Not so long ago this was an unthinkable scenario. Not so long ago this would mean the loss of history etc etc etc. This very week the man positioning himself to run this new club suggested that David Cunningham King telling people not to back the cva agreement was a bad thing because he, supposedly as a Rangers man should be looking to protect the history of the club (I can get the exact quote if you insist but I can't be bothered right now) But today we are expected to believe that everything is still the same. This was utterly predictable, as was the collective response from Rangers fans. This belligerent tub thumping (in general, not specifically or indeed especially you) flies in the face of logic, it flies in the face of the noises coming out of the club for months and it flies in the face of what Green said this very week. What me or other Celtic supporters think may not be relevant to you or other Rangers fans but when Rangers fans wake up tomorrow with a different view of what a new club will mean for them as they did today and yesterday and the day before that shows me that they are prepared to cling to any bit of hope. But there is none. Liquidation is the end. If you want to fool yourselves by dressing up in dead mens clothes,*go right ahead.
[video=youtube;7Yh-Gm2EJvg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yh-Gm2EJvg&feature=player_embedded#![/video] Listen to this rocket talking about policy.Is he the only one that actually thought the CVA would get through otr is he taking the piss. Everyone knew this policy right?
Green is whyte mkII. he has spoken so much ****e over the last few weeks its unreal. he stated on sportsound on sat about king, he then said he will release the names of his investors on thursday when they know if the cva will go through as some have said they are not interested if the club is liquidated. He also said today that he was unaware of hmrc policy on cva's and said did they make it up in the last week. The fact that it states this on hmrc's own website might have given him a wee clue about his cva and the chances it had of getting through. As far as i can see it Rangers now cease to exist so they cannot be punnished for what has gone on before they were formed. The old rangers can still have titles stripped if they are found guilty of the dual contracts. The only sanctions they should face is if they are allowed straight back into the spl.
Hector said as much today telling them to start again free from fear of litigation. That is fair enough. I always loved the period after something **** happened to them, or they'd gain the benefit of a stupid decision. they used to wait for the party line to come out but they are so ****ed now that the leadership isn't coming from anywhere so they are all shooting off in all directions. In that spirit, I give to you Mr Richard Gough; The club I gave blood, sweat and tears for is dead. Whose fault is it? I don’t care. All I care about is the people who brought Rangers to their knees are punished. Tax evasion is a crime, everyone knows that. If you don’t pay your taxes you go to jail. It’s a white-collar crime that must have consequences. So if HMRC are really serious about liquidation giving them the best chance to investigate why Rangers failed, I want to see it done properly. I want to see the people who are responsible for running Rangers into the ground brought to book. I don’t know if it’s Craig Whyte or whoever. But I do know the culprit — or culprits — should be locked up. I’m still numb by the news 140 years of history has been wiped out in one fell swoop. It’s like a death in the family you know has been coming for a while. When it happens it still knocks you for six. It’s difficult to know what to make of it all. Too big to fail, that’s what I always thought. Or maybe it was more to do with not believing a club could be so badly mismanaged. This whole sorry episode has been one rat’s nest of corruption. So much of it stinks. It would take someone a long time to start piecing together all the rotten bits of this jigsaw. But time might be something HMRC have if they are so determined to clamp down on tax evasion in football. When that happens I hope they show no mercy to the people who have destroyed Rangers. It’s the last thing the players deserve, the last thing boss Ally McCoist, below, needs. Same goes for the hundreds of staff who are in limbo now because of this mess. The administrators are saying all the jobs will be transferred to the newco. Will they really? Will anyone at Rangers go home tonight confident their wages are going to drop into the bank at the end of the month? Fat chance. There’s always protection for the rich, no matter how badly they mess up. Well this time it can’t happen. There’s a lot of people in Scottish football having a party right now. I’m not disagreeing about Rangers being punished. I just don’t understand why so many people are glorying in this. It’s not just the graveyard of Rangers these people are dancing on. There’s a real danger it could be Scottish football that dies a slow death because of this. I hope to God that’s not the case, but the people who are so quick to see Gers die have to be careful what they wish for. The whole thing is just so sad. I look back and think about all the medals I won at Ibrox. Leading Gers to Nine in a Row, the League Cups and Scottish Cups. One day Rangers will be back. They will wear light blue and play at Ibrox Stadium. But it won’t be the same club I played for. A lot of people are saying starting again in the Third Division is maybe the best thing to do. That doesn’t change the fact none of this should have happened in the first place. The really sickening thing about all of this is it was avoidable. All it would have taken for that was for someone to be honest. Pay your dues, give the tax man what he is owed. Instead Rangers have died. Despite what some think, that’s a DISASTER for Scottish football. The SPL will go on and Gers will form a newco and limp along until they find their feet. But we won’t come through the other side without some pain. All the clubs in the SPL will suffer because of Gers’ demise. I had Andy Goram on the phone as soon as I woke up and he couldn’t get his head round it. Like me, he wanted answers. But if that’s how two guys on the outside feel, how does Coisty feel when he’s at the heart of it all? He’s kept Rangers together this season. Now it’s unravelling at a rate of knots. How does he even begin to get his head round it? What happens now for him and for everyone there? You thought Coisty couldn’t endure any more than last season.
The thing is that Rangers were/are in so much s**t that they were only ever going to attract scumbag vultures. If only their fans realized it but the best thing that could happen is for them to be wound up, a Newco start in the 3rd Division and then the fans who continue following that new club would at least know that whoever had an interest in buying them would be doing so for footballing reasons as well as trying to make money over the longer term rather than the fast buck brigade who have been hovering recently and at the moment like flies round s**t*.
