You guys crack me up Chelsea had More possession, More territory, More shots at goal & More passes and VDS made more saves than Cech And you say you deserved to win?
How many of those shots on goal looked like they were going in? Stats don't tell the whole story, my friend. I reiterate, United deserved the win.
Torres header, Lampard's shot that was cleared off the line Torres slight flick which hit the post and a penalty we were denied against your only one real chance But if you keep repeating your mantra you might yet believe yourself
And you forget the extended periods of time where United were relatively comfortable at 1-0 up? I think you'll find that United had settled for the scoreline.
In this type of situation, yes. United had done what they wanted to do and prevented Chelsea from undoing that. I'd say that was a satisfactory performance, wouldn't you?
Yet you had the much busier goalkeeper and less territory and less possession and had less shots and made one third less passes you still deserved to win? Oh my Priceless
You fail to see my point. United were in a winning position and took their foot off the gas. Keeping Chelsea at bay was their task, and they succeeded. Or did they? How many of the much more shots did Chelsea score?
Its not a matter of how many we didn't score but pushing you back to have the opportunities the referee was in our half more than United in the second half
Even being a United fan I'd usually be sympathetic towards opposition fans with that penalty shout at the end, but I find it hard to on this occaision for the sheer amount of luck Chelsea have had against us in recent times. The last three league games between United and Chelsea were a joke refereeing wise. Still, its not put you out of the tie, if Chelsea score first at OT which is far from unlikely, its advantage Chelsea big time.
I'll definately agree with you that a draw would have been a fairer result, and on another day it would have ended a draw.. But I have to disagree with your belief that the team with the most possession and shots deserves to win. It's called "counter attacking" football, and i'll remind you that Inter milan had 32 % possesion in last years final, and only 11 shots compared to Bayern's 21. To anyone those stats indicate Bayern deserved to win.. But from watching the game, I don't believe they did. This style of play works perfectly for us against Arsenal, but Chelsea are much harder to counter, and admittedly, yesterday we rode our luck on a few occasions...
More passes? You sound like an Arsenal fan now! United had More possession, More territory, More shots on target & More passes and Cech made more saves than VDS in the 2008 final. So now do you admit we clearly deserved to win that final? Because you were adamantly denying it before. Like you said then, stats never tell the whole story. In the match on Wednesday, we dominated the first half with more possession, territory, and corners. We also made more of it - rather than sending endless balls across the box and hoping someone would get on the end of them we got the ball to feet in the box and scored a cracking goal. In the second half we were happy to sit back and defend comfortably, restricting you to long shots and few clear cut chances whilst we attacked you on the counter. You had more shots at goal cos we were happy to see Essien and Lampard drilling them in from twenty or thirty yards out. Ultimately, like I said before, both teams created three clear cut chances and only one of them took their chance. VDS made more saves but they were all comfortable saves apart from the Torres header, and Cech had an equally tough job to cut Nani's cross out with his fingertips, and claim the ball at Nani's feet after Nani had been fouled by Essien and chosen not to take a dive.
Really though?? Yes the luiz and penalty in the recent league game were tight decisions that went in our favour. But the decisions in last years games are very much exagerrated by most united fans, probably as an excuse for not winning the league (for once). At SB, the free kick decision was 50/50 and only a free kick after all. The fact we scored from it made it more newsworthy but hardly a really contentious decision. And had we not scored (and we still had a lot to do to score) it wouldn't be remembered. At O.T, Drogba was offside but your goal was handball. We deserved to win that day, most would agree. On wednesday, United having got in front, tactically played it well. However it wasn't a great performance by any stretch and you needed a post, goal line clearance and a poor ref decision to secure the win. The headline is you won, reality is, the game was pretty even overall.
Ginger, no matter how you try and twist things by relying on misleading statistics, United were well-deserving of their win. This was the commonly-held view throughout the media and press, amongst the pundits and journalists, on Wednesday night and Thursday morning. That's despite the blatant pen. The only people who think that Chelsea deserved anything from the game are Chelsea fans like yourself clinging to stats. You're starting to sound like Arsenal fans
I've heard very few United fans claim they were the reason we didn't win the league. Most just accepted that last season we weren't good enough to deserve the league, and the bad decisions were just part and parcel of the game. I thought it was an excellent performance - we played our tactics and game plan to perfection and you needed a fingertip save from Cech on Nani's cross, and Essien to clip Nani's ankles, thus slowing him down when he was through on goal, to stop us getting a second. The reality, if you look at most of the media commentary on the game, is that you were unlucky not to get that penalty, but United deserved the win. After all, who's to say you would even have scored the penalty? JT might have wanted to take it...
I've not seen a single report, or hear a single pundit say that Chelsea were hard-done-by. And yet Chelsea fans maintain they were the better or at least equal team. So basically, everyone is wrong - apart from them.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/apr/07/manchester-united-chelsea-alex-ferguson To be fair to Chelsea there wasn't a huge gap between the teams. We were just more coherent and clinical. I reckon last night was how the 2008 CL final would have gone had Chelsea not gotten their deflected goal right before half time.
Agreed re Wednesday 2008 - The goal wasn't deflected. How the ball ended up in front of him is a different story.
Funny that because the only people thinking that United deserved the win are their supporters How Strange?
