GJ is now moving up in the betting again, so looks like he might be back in with a chance. Laudrup now evens with some bookies and GJ 5-2. So it's starting to like like it could be one of them. But will have all probably changed by tomorrow.
We shall see. At least BR always had ambition. If GJ stalls, then I don't want him. We need someone who can take the guys onewards and only GJ knows if he can. Some people know their limits and are happy in a comfort zone. Mr Jones, man up if you BELIEVE you can.
It just seems strange to me how you can be involved in football but not be ambitious. I see it like a club manager saying there's no point getting promoted this year as the chances are we're gonna fail, get relegated and i will lose my job, so we will just stay where we are for now. You don't get anywhere in football if you don't have ambition, so to be happy as assistant manager with what it seems like no prospect of being a manager just doesnt add up... But like I said, that's just my opinion and would appreciate it if you left out the childish name calling casual
I still ask the question (yet to be answered) how do we know (1) he's been offered it? and (2) he's refused it? Two assumptions in this thread - unless there's a link somewhere.
GJ will be the next manager the way things are going, I expect him to take the reigns by tomorrow if jinks is in contact with him while on holiday. if not then when he comes back..
What you say makes a certain amount of sense, but I have heard many Swans fans on here urge players to do the exact opposite. For example, before Scotland left many people were saying it was obvious he wasn't Premier League quality so should stay with us in the Championship. So they were in effect telling himm not to have ambition and not to even try. And then if they don't try others say they should. So they can never please all the fans. But maybe he's happy being no. 2. Being no. 1 in any job brings extra pressures and many people just don't want that. Managers will usually move to a better team, but I don't think it's the same with assistant managers. To look at it from another point, would you urge Curtis to leave us manage another club. After all, if he was ambitious, shouldn't he try becoming a football manager? I don't think it's as clear cut as you say it. Even if it is true of 90% of managers there will still be some who don't want to manage at a certain level. There's also the possibility that he just doesn't want to come back after already having left. The fact is that it's difficult to say for sure without knowing what exactly is going on. We are assuming he turned the job down but we don't know that for a fact. Apologies for earlier comment, but it was aimed at what you said not at you as a person. I just though you were a little harsh on the guy. But then I was also probably a little harsh on you too. So apologies again.
How are you so sure? Should we all put our money on him and make our fortunes? And if you're right it will make this thread look really stupid.
You are assuming he is not being ambitious, maybe he is but feels Swansea is not for him as they don't fit his expectations ? As I said if he has turned us down it's for his reasons, and his reasons are probably nothing to do with us. Your scenario is not really relevant as he could equally stay at Wigan get paid a lot of money, and enjoy the success of Wigan maybe qualifying for Europe. And as mentioned he could have been promised the Wigan job when Martinez goes as he has an affiliation with the club as he used to play for them.
he is jinks favorite and he will keep on trying to persuade him that we are the right move....I think GJ will eventually take the job. after all the job is his if he wants it.....
Ahh yeahh but with things like Scotland, that's from a totally biased point of view really isnt it. We as fans only say that for purely selfish reasons. Deep down we all know he had to give it a shot, whether he succeeded or failed. As for curtis, I don't think the scenario really applies to him... Being a coach is totally different to the role of an assistant manager. An assistant manager I would have thought would love the opportunity to manage a premier league side, but yeah perhaps he is just happy being there with less pressure on him. Although if Martinez gets the sack and they hire someone new, chances are he would lose his job anyway. But I don't believe that it's because Swansea aren't a fit for him, surely it's rare to be handed the chance to manage at top flight without any previous experience? What would be expect, a spurs job? Of course everything we are all saying right now is probably irrelevant to the real reason why he doesn't want to manage us, but it's always fun to speculate. And no worries casual, heat of debate and all that.
I can't see Martinez getting the sack mate, but if for example spurs or the gunners come in for him in the next couple of years, I can see him making the move, and perhaps in that scenario Graham will get the Wigan job by being promoted from within. But by all accounts he is still in the running so I suspect we will hear something by the weekend by the club on this, perhaps by the end of today ?
No I know, Martinez could probably kill a child and his job there would still be safe. But what I mean is the job of an assistant manager is just as unstable as the managers. If the manager gets the boot then chances are so do they. So unless you have the confidence in yourself to succeed and not rely on someone else, then why wouldn't you take the job (from a general point of view). Although it would make a great deal of sense for jones to be promised the Wigan job once Martinez jumps ship, however I can't see them surviving after the inevitable raid by Martinez.
Maybe Martinez will take him with him and he's thinks assistant manager at spurs is better than manager at swansea. who knows. no idea what he's thinking. But if HJ is trying to persuade him, I don't think that sounds good. We need someone who wants to come here not someone who needs persuading.
Thanks. But you're a year late with the welcome. I've been here for a year!!! LOL. But been busy in Thailand, so not on here too much.
I do remember... we had a few run ins (including you threatening lawyers on me) LOL! Good to see you still have the 'knack' to create debate, Bankok from 606 (unless I'm mistaken). Welcome home.
Back to reality... we have earned more from the transfer of managers/coaches in the last 3 years than players! HJ ... take a bow!
