So the ex Spurs player in your username whom you refer to as 'a god' won **** all for Spurs as a manager yet you still respect him. Yet Kenny for us won many trophies in his first spell as manager and has been known as King Kenny since his playing days,he even won a trophy before he was sacked this last season,him and his wife have done a lot of charitable work for seriously ill people locally and he also under Rafa was in charge of our youth development. Kenny will 'always' be King Kenny to us,so suck your bitter lemon HIAG.
sorry but another HIAG loved the player that was Hoddle. we all knew he was cack as a manager. now this is the diffrence...read carefully.. Hoddle the player = legend Hoddle the manager = glad he left us. that is how well balanced folk think..we are big enough and honest enough to give credit where it was due..and still hold Hoddle in very high regards....but he wasnt good enough as a manager. honesty mate..thats what it is...and you know what...Hoddle loves Spurs too..thats why he doesnt behave all twisted and keep on throwing his name in the hat...he knows what we want and knows what his own strengths are. KD knows your a gullable bunch so whenevr he wishes for an ego boost he pops his head into the mix..and all you boys start prostrating. poor attitude to worship a man.
There's the thing Dalglish was successful as both player and manager. Be honest, if any Spurs manager won 3 league titles, 2 FA Cups and 1 League Cup would you hold him in high esteem? Dalglish has never really thrown his hat in, the only time he has, is when he saw a short list of possible replacements for Rafa and he felt he could do a better job than those suggested. He has always wanted the best for the club, he has always been humble with the praise the fans have shown him. Was he a failure in the last 18 months with us? By his own high standards I'm sure you could argue he was especially the league form, but he won a trophy, got close to winning another, not many managers have done more than that with an 18 month project. Poor attitude to worship a man? Poor attitude to judge a man on 18month rather than a 40 year career.
Yes, it was all in the past, like 'Pool's glories. I've no doubt that if this was 1982, Kenny would have done far better for you than he did. But it's not 1982, it's 2012, and Kenny-boy was too old, too out of touch with the modern game and the idiocies of modern footballers. In his day, the boys could go out to a nightclub on the Friday night before the match, pull a couple of birds and spend the night spit-roasting. There wasn't the press scrutiny that follows today's game. From the off, Kenny seemed out of touch with reality. When he blew £120 million on a load of rubbish English players, he probably genuinely believed it was because "English is best," but us normal fans know that times have moved on since the 80s. English players are not the best any more, they haven't been for a while. You Mousers should have seen the warning signs, you shouldn't have encouraged him with all that "King Kenny" bollocks. It was all in the past. Us normal fans could see that. And all Kenny ended up doing was ruining his own reputation, as well as creating some record all-time lows for your club. There's a good chance that those lows will never be beaten, and Kenny-boy will go down in your club's history as its worst manager in the post-War era. Is that something to be proud of?
And Spurs current 'glories' are? Your last trophy win was when exactly? Deluded Spurs fans living in cloud cuckoo land,two 4th places and you think your worldbeaters.
2008. We beat Chelsea to win the Mickey Mouse Cup, and we were runners-up the year after. Not feeling so clever now, I bet, are you, numpty? Anyway, what has any of that got to do with the fact that Kenny-boy was the worst manager in 'Pool's post-War era? We'd respect you more, if you just came out and admitted it, instead of persisting with your pathetic delusions.
I suppose all those teams that we beat to win the League Cup and to get to the final of the FA Cup were not playing modern football? His record against the big teams in the last 18 months was still good, I guess your trying to say the modern defensive systems have tripped him up. As for the 80's, just to be clear his last League title as a manager was in 95. I don't think any Liverpool fan is claiming the last season is enough on its own to praise the man as a king, is it something to be proud of? I'm certainly proud of him giving it a go rather than than ducking it in case it tarnished his reputation with fickle football fans. Some of the signings were overpriced (negotiating fees isn't something I think Kenny had a great deal of involvement in) and I can see your point to a degree regarding the English players, but I can still see the reasoning. Buying the likes of the under 21 England Captain and the next big thing (that Spurs were also after). Once Carra and Gerrard hang up their boots, we don't want to lose all identity as an English team, we don't want to be a team full of foreign players that jump ship after a couple of seasons, we have a core of 4 or 5 players that could legitimately be the basis of our squad to 7-10 years, whilst we were in a period where we could not attract the top foreign talent it was worth the punt. Was he the best manager last season? No Was he the worst manager last season? No
HIAG,i told you that his standing at our club is based on almost 40yrs not just last season,if you want to remain bitter thats ok. But as i said earlier Kenny will always be our King. As for you winning 'the mickey mouse cup' in 2008,that cup win got Spurs a place in Europe that your club were thankful of,your support at the final and the players that won it celebrated,it was a stepping stone to where you are today as a club. But until you win the title or the CL dont make an arse of yourself with your delusions of grandeur.
to all the mouser's the question said Last season,not his playing career,or his first spell as Manager, last season!.
I suppose by his own standards Fergie was the worst manager last year because he didn't win anything with Utd which can only be called a failure. It will be interesting to see what happens to him and Wenger if they win nothing again next season. Two seasons on the trot wi' nowt will be a disaster for Utd fans who expect much more and 9 years for gooners?....hmmm!
[SUB][/SUB] Ok, I'm going to stand up for Fergie a bit here. Last year, Man City won the Prem. Chelsea won the F.A. Cup, and the C.L. now, what's the common denominator here? Money! Of course. This has been coming for a while now, it was always just a matter of time before City bought the title. If left unchecked, I've no doubt the they'll buy the C.L. very soon, too. Fact is, that unless something is done to rein in the financial firepower of these clubs, the likes of Fergie and Wenger can't compete. Never mind poor little Spurs.
Before the Chavs and £ity won the billionaire owner lottery, United were the money club. Was it £80 million they got for Ronaldo? How much did they buy Ferdinand for? £30 million, was it? The most money ever spent on a defender. How much did they pay for Carrick, and for Berbatov? How much did they pay for Rooney? And didn't they double his salary when he threatened to leave for £ity? I don't see how anyone can cry for United or for Fergie, since they are merely getting a taste of their own bitter medicine.
I'll go along with that Hod. We saw last season that even even very costly players can play badly and have temper tantrums which affects their playing abilities ie Tevez and Balotelli. If a lesser team's morale is higher than that of a rich team well the former will win every time. Fergie is a good motivator so it shouldn't really matter how much a team costs. Look how Torres,Bent and Carroll flopped with their huge price tags. Sorry Spain I cannot agree with you.
It worked though didn't it? Rooney's always been a spoilt little brat though Croydon. Few others over the Fergie years have given him any problems.
Ok. Firstly, I didn't say that I was crying for Fergie - jus standing up for him a bit. Secondly, there really is no comparison as Utd's money was generated from revenues, not given to them by some mega-rich individual, or oil state. Also, the sums that are currently at the disposal of these teams - should they so chose, are colossal - far, far beyond anything that Utd could ever dream of. City have come from virtual obscurity to Premiership champions in, relatively, no time. Just a small matter of one billion pounds seems to have done the trick. And that's just pocket money to their owners!
