yes progress has been made. if you look at what the anti Harry people point out..then you will know that it is not the final standings they ae complaining about. There is a very thin line here between succes and failure...people grieviences come from things like..tactical flaws....apart from that magical week when we got 4th a few seasons ago....Harry has got shown up tactically in the big matches. You provided evidence such as reports etc..and likewise others can provide match reports etc to back it up..the results are there for us to see. maybe many of us are not just happy with getting 4th..because when you break it down..there are alot of things that happen or dont within that journey that cause concern to some fans. ill give an example...yes we have finished 4th again...Jol was finishing 5th with a much inferior squad according to many...so people think there are people out there that can possibly realise the true potential of our squad and push it further. yes this is not easily done but its an observation...i suppose people can be a bit far fetched on here because we can afford to be..we dont actually make the choices. seriously for every pro..there will be a con..with substantial evidence. you want everyone to love Harry dont you Lenny? i dont think it works like that. your very defensive of him because he has done well relatively speaking for us...that is fair enough. but.. there are some of us who wear their hearts on their sleeves a bit more than others..and for all that he has done well...there are some of us who believe that he still has ehaved in a derogatory manner since the England job came up...theres much evidence to back this..and it has been done to death..but there is a reason for some posters being disgruntled. ive got no problem understanding both points of view. this is an example but i would say a valid one for fans who want success in the long run.
nobody questioned you supporting Harry...it felt like it was you saying all the anti Harry posters need to shut up because they have no proof of their claims and they dont see that we wont get anyone better than Harry. evidence is out there for both views...some of us are not just satisfied with top 4...sometimes it becomes secondary even, because the demeanour of the man who is running the team comes into question and it doesnt sit easy with a few of us..i can give evidence of that too. i dont watch football just for bragging rights..i actually want people representing my club to have some class. thats why we taunt the Chesea fans and even the Pool fans. Chelsea won so much..yet we still say things about their personel..and rightly so..its not always about the result.
they had a better season than us...id settle for 5th and unearthing some gems like they did..if we could do that to add to what is already at our disposal then we would be strong to move onto another level. does that mke me ungrateful or does that give me a progressive mind set which is saying..'im not settling for 4th..i think things can be done to move up a notch' as Toon showed it doesnt come down to money always.
We should have a second poll with the same list of managers for which manager you DON'T want at Spurs next season. Harry would probably lead that poll by a huge margin as well...
There are two pieces of evidence that suggest that the contract negotiations aren't going well. Redknapp's rather public pleading for a longer deal and his decision to bring in an agent to aid the process. Levy clearly has some reservations or neither would be necessary. Results and performances aren't the only factors that need to be considered, for me. They're very important, but the future of the club, the ability to progress and the club's public image are all factors. Redknapp has done very well in bringing through young players, for the most part, with Bale, Sandro and Walker improving steadily during his tenure. The Welshman's form during the latter half of the season and the over-use of our right-back are concerns, though. That leads on to the manager's seeming inability to learn from his mistakes, running some players into the ground, isolating others and his utter failure to address our dire set pieces. All ongoing problems that he seems either oblivious to or unconcerned with. The club's image? Well, I don't think that it's something that he particularly concerns himself with. Redknapp's first thought with any story that he gives to the media is Redknapp, unfortunately. It's yet to do any serious damage, but it's definitely an unattractive trait. He's done well for us so far, as I've always maintained, but his age, health, apparent lack of loyalty and dalliances with the press have to be taken into account. If the offer of a three year contract was made, how sure would the chairman be that his manager intended to fulfil it?
Would anyone be aggrieved if Levy offered Harry a rolling contract, to be renewed every summer, rather than a longer contract that wouldn't be worth the paper it was printed on when the tabloids hound Hodgson out of the England job?
It's worked for some managers in the past but not in this situation. The employer gains flexibility but loses the right to much compensation should England sack Roy in a year's time. Fact is that the contract would be worth a lot more than the paper it's printed on. It'll be worth a few million quid.
For some while I have held the view that this is the likeliest outcome, but having seen Harry's interview on SSN yesterday, I have to say I am not as sure as I was. I haven't seen it mentioned on here, but apparantly Levy's mother passed away over the weekend, which rather makes Harry's comments more insensitive than they would otherwise have been.
There is plenty of evidence out there that Harry would not have turned down the England job, had it been offered. I repeat, the Chairman has gone very cold on offering any extension of his contract for a reason. As I have said, you choose to believe what you want to be true. Not on the basis of the available evidence, or the preponderance of that evidence.
I heard that earlier today too but it didn't feel comfortable speculating about it on here as I had no real source for it. It is quite possible 'Arry wouldn't have been made aware of it unless he'd actively been asking about a new deal recently and I suspect he's been growing agitated and decided to strike a blow with his buddies at SSN. I'm not sure whether he's aware that he's fooling no one with these "impromptu" interviews where the interviewer seems to know exactly the questions he wants to answer.
It is possible Harry was unaware of this news YV, but as it has been out in the public domain since Monday, it is reasonable to think he must have known. Most people know where I stand on the Harry issue, but I have to say I thought his interview was both cheap and unneccessary and very unwise.
I totally agree. From all the quotes from him (i.e. all the evidence that is available and tangible) it seems certain he would have taken it if offered. I've never said otherwise. What is not certain is everything else people say. That he flirted with the FA, that he took his eye off the ball at Spurs and started thinking too much about England, that he has now shown how he'd leave Spurs for any better offer... Of course there's a reason that no contract has been offered or signed yet. But I'm not the one claiming to know what this reason is. I bet no-one had "Danial Levy's mum's dying and basically it is not urgent" down as a reason. Not saying that is the reason. Just saying that I don't know and neither does anyone here. I'm sorry - I've just got to disagree with this bit. I believe what I believe cos I've had three and a half years of evidence to examine. Those who call for Martinez or AVB next year have next to none. Harry has earned my trust. I didn't just come to my conclusions based on hope and randomness. Unlike, I dare say, some of the people thinking that A.N. Other is the ideal man for Spurs.
I agree, not very bright from Harry. But then, he's never known when to STFU. All he's done, IMO, is piss Levy off even more. Maybe he thinks if he can get opinion on his side, then he can force Levy's hand - Big mistake!
Fair enough, I hadn't seen anything about it until today. Yeah, I didn't think it was a good move by 'Arry but I'm always one of the more critical people of him when he opens his gob to the media.
In this thread I hope I've made it clear that Harry does indeed need to STFU a bit more. And this is indeed a prime example.
Thats very sad to hear re. Levy's mum, and undoubtedly will cause more delay to contract discussions (well any Spurs business for the time being). It is to be expected, and I have no problem with that. Fans patience would be a good idea I think. Whilst on the subject, I would also like to voice my condolances for Levy at this sad time.
