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The 2012/13 season? A premonition.

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Cest Advocaat, Jun 5, 2012.

  1. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    We'll both be top 10.

    City will retain the title, just from Chelsea.

    Going down will be Reading, Wigan & one of QPR, Norwich or Saints.

    I hope Norwich & Saints pull through, but I think losing Lambert is mammouth.

    In Lalland, Sharp & Lambert, Saints could have just enough to eek out a few wins and shade it.
     
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  2. ...And Out Come the Wolve

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    ??
     
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  3. parkersafc

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    I think the bottom 3 will be

    Norwich
    Swansea
    Reading

    Both Swansea and Norwich were getting found out now and both have lost their managers and i think the managers who come in have a very hard job.

    For all Reading were champions I think they'll be the weakest of the promoted sides and simply don't have the players to stay up.
     
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  4. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Big, major, massive??

    I mean Lambert from Norwich, not Saints forward!
     
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  5. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    Tbh, I would label Sunderland the best of the rest for next season.

    I don't think they'd be part of the so called top 8, but they'd be the best outside that.

    That's what I thought we would be, around mid season.

    Not in the top 6, but the best outside that.

    But who knows? Maybe Sunderland will be in the mix with Liverpool and Everton. We can't tell.
     
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  6. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    We need 2 strikers Tash, and the right 2 strikers.

    If we get them, we'll be a canny side, if we get them plus Manu Fernandes and a decent left back, we'll be a very good side.

    We don't sign the right 4-5, we'll labour between 10-12th, but we have a fair bit of talent in the side.
     
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  7. blackcatsteve

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    I believe he was being fastidious

    mammoth
     
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  8. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Ah, people who give a **** about spelling on an internet forum!

    I've heard of such beings....
     
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  9. ...And Out Come the Wolve

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    Jeez it was just a wind up.
     
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  10. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    yeh m o n thats about right <bubbly>
     
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  11. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    If you don't sign the right players I think you'll be lower than that, but If you do sign the right players, I think you can threaten the top 8, perhaps even the top 6, but It will be hard for you.

    However, you don't have European concerns, so you maybe able to pip Liverpool to a top 7/8 place.

    I dunno. You seemed ****ing fantastic when O'neill first took over at Sunderland, but you seemed to drift off a bit towards the end of the season.

    Tbh, this sounds a lot like the Bruce era. Some portions of the season you'd be flying and pushing for the top 6/7, and sometimes you'd be battling to keep a hold of a top 12-14 place, and not be far off a relegation scrap.

    For your sake, you'd be hoping that O'neill could be a little more consistent.

    Sometimes under Bruce you'd look immense, then you'd drift off. But with O'neill, I'm sorry to say, you took the same trend. You looked great, then you looked average.

    Good luck lads.
     
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  12. Steven Royston O'Neill

    Steven Royston O'Neill Well-Known Member

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    Norwich mods telling me Chris Houghton to be named new manager within 24 hours.
     
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  13. Cheik the room

    Cheik the room Well-Known Member

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    Other than what I've highlighted I agree. I don't think youse can even think about challenging top 7 or 8 after yet another season of overhaul (if indeed that is what happens). The season after next, who knows.

    I think other than that our predictions are pretty close, although with Hulk, Hazard, Marin and anyone else they sign, Chelsea have a better team than City and I can see them retaining Champions League and winning the Prem.
     
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  14. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    'Mag In Sunderland Are Worse Shocker'
     
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  15. Cheik the room

    Cheik the room Well-Known Member

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    Who was the last team that had a redefining summer overhaul followed by a successful season?
     
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  16. blackcatsteve

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    Well you are saying chelsea will. OK they are buying better players than us but they are going for the title, we just want top 10 and pref top 8.

    No one in their right mind could have forcast your season last year, not even the most optimistic toon fan could have, but it happened, so if you can do it, not sure why we cant, not saying we will but you saying we wont but yet you will still finish 6th, is crazy talk imho.
     
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  17. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't having a go mate <ok>

    This statement is in direct contradiction to your 'Chelsea are champions' line though. That's a fact.
     
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  18. Cheik the room

    Cheik the room Well-Known Member

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    Chelsea have a squad that still (off the top of my head, there are surely more) have 7 or 8 regular starters that have won a title with Chelsea. Bringing in new players ON TOP of that experience is a totally different scenario imo.
    Also, what do you mean by "crazy talk"? The NUFC squad have proven they are capable of a top 6 finish. Of course, there is no reason you CAN'T do well next year, but just because NUFC shocked everyone by over achieving last year, doesn't mean it is suddenly rational to start predicting that anyone can do it. Why don't we just predict a Champions League push by West Brom, after all, NUFC did it so why shouldn't they?

    Nor was I mate <ok>

    However, (see above).
     
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  19. blackcatsteve

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    Well why cant they not?

    And pretty sure Man City had an overhaul or 10 in the past few years. and it hasnt done them any harm.
     
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  20. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Unquestionably, Chelsea is an overhaul mate.

    NEW RB
    NEW DM
    Marin
    Hazard
    Hulk
    NEW FW

    That's 6 first XI players, most likely.

    They have also lost Drogba, their big game player, and Kalou, a well used squad player.

    That's an overhaul, but I also think they will be magnificent next season.

    It does contradict what you said though marra.

    Our 'overhaul' is likely to be 1 LB, one RM and 2 FW.

    Any extra additions will be more than likely squad players.

    Most teams would bring in 4-5 a season by natural progression.

    As Steve says, City's overhaul didn't go too badly wrong...
     
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