Has Hodgson already lost his credibility? He dumped Rio in favour of Terry. An incredible decision. Like choosing a carthorse ahead of a thoroughbred. His explanation: it was purely for "footballing reasons". Now that Cahill has been injured, he chose Martin Kelly ahead of Rio F. Now I have nothing against Kelly. But is he a direct replacement for Cahill? And if he is a centre half which he is not (by trade) is he ahead of Rio? Hodgson is rapidly running out of the little credibility he had. Is he still saying it is for footballing reasons?
He is still saying that, yes. We have to assume Jones will now be a centre half as Kelly is a right back. Both Liverpool right backs in the squad, great as they had such a successful season. It's not really that I think Rio should have been called up, it's what the **** has Micah Richards done to upset Woy? Staggering decision.
Well played Hodgson. You picked who you thought was best for your squad. If you didn't pick Rio Ferdinand not strictly for footballing reasons,maybe it was because he's not that good a bloke to have in your dressing room (his "tweets" suggest that). But anyway, it's your decision and Godspeed. I suppose the next thing will be Rio "tweeting" that he wishes England all the best, in a typical burst of hypocrisy.
Yet John Terry must be a great bloke to have around. He'd never to try undermine the captain or make the black players in the squad remotely uncomfortable. Got no issue with you not wanting Rio in, your reasoning seems a bit skewed though.
RR: no doubt my reasoning is skewed, as you say, as my comments were based on my reaction to how Ferdinand has reacted to Hodgson's choices. I think he's a hypocrite, just like Terry,whom I'm sorry Roy felt obliged to take. I hope to get to the Ukraine for next Monday, but if I can't, play up you plonkers!
This First, the whole world knows that Hodgson had to choose between Rio and Terry as both of them in the dressing room would have been inconceivable after Terry was charged. So why not come clean? Two, Hodgson must have been watching different matches to all of us. Richards had a great season at City (unfortunately for United) how could he be ignored? When the FA appointed someone safe, they meant it literally FFS. His matches so far have been plodding and dull and his team totally devoid of any flair.
The only complaint I had all along was that Micah Richards was'nt picked. As a nuetral, and England fan, it's now GOD help us, Woy is just making things worse than they already are. Richards can play across the back four, Kelly as far as I'm aware is a full back and that's it. Rio? was never going anyway or was he? Because of injury/s and game time.. or the lack of, so to say it's for footballing reasons? F F S Woy tell it HOW it IS.
Fergie was partly to blame for Ferdinand's omission. Sir Alex Ferguson is unsure whether Rio Ferdinand can cope with playing in all of England's matches at Euro 2012.The Manchester United boss fears the 33-year-old's long-standing lower back problem would leave him unable to deal with the tough match schedule. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18044588 Roy would not risk his 'friendship' with Fergie by going against his wishes,but the FA's agenda to keep the accused happy at the expense of the victim's brothers international swansong is disgraceful.
Don't usually post here. Don't really want to get into the Terry/Rio Debacle but I feel sorry (shock horror) for Roy here. FA do a half ass job because legally they can't touch Terry until court case so remove captain & in effect manager but don't remove the player. Roy comes in & so has no choice. To omit Terry would arguably prejudice his case after the FA's cockup. Terry maintains his innocence; our society says he has the right to be presumed so & his England employers the FA agree because they don't suspend him. Rio has stated publicly he's against Terry. As Roy it's a no win. Pick Rio & upset anyone who believes in innocent before proven guilty. Pick Terry & Rio: Divided camp (like SA)so arguably while it's obviously semantics when Roy says its for footballing reasons he doesn't pick Rio: could be argued it's true. Can't not pick Terry (you know the slimey bast*rd without blinking said he could play with Rio no problem) upset camp is footballing reasons. Unfortunately proven through time the price you pay for sticking by your principles(not judging wether he's correct or not) Rio in his obviously necessary public condemnation of Terry ruled himself out. To start tweeting like he had no input into the scenario is mischievous at best. As for Kelly over Richards, well maybe because Kelly didn't think he was too big for the reserve list? Same as Henderson. Apparently both Carrick & Richards did. And before you say they can take only so many insults I'll say Carragher & how quite a few (including me)told him that if he really wanted to play for His country he should just suck it up when he said something similar...
Have you been at the Moroccan woodbines? The first interview given by Hodgson when he became our manager contained words along the lines of 'i know Sir Alex wont be happy with me taking the Liverpool job,i hope he can forgive me'. You're blind if you cant see that the FA are backing JT and that pressure was put on Hodgson to tow the line.
The argument that he had to select Terry instead of Ferdinand because that would prejudice the trial does not stand. If the FA could and did remove the captaincy from him without thnking about that then they could also have decided not to include him in the squad. All sorts of reasons are usually given: state of mind, give him time to prepare his defence, etc etc. I agree that taking both Ferdinand and Terry would be taking a risk with the unity of the dressing room. The upshot of all of this is that England is in a mess: Because of that scumbag the team's selection has been really handicapped. What happens if Terry is now injured? Does Woy say: Rio can now come into the squad because Terry is not there? Too many compromises of the wrong kind have landed the FA and their manager into trouble.
Kelly is a future centre back for us - so in that sense I see no problem. I too would of of picked Richards who is an absolute beast. Has anyone ever considered he may have ruled himself out? It Cappello and Roy who have left him out now.
**** Richards and Carrick, both of them apparently rejected to go on the standby list so why should roy then proceed to ring them up. Also as for Rio i did feel bad for him as i agree he should have been called up over Kelly but after his childish Twitter comments he can go **** himself aswell
There is clearly something about Richards that a number of managers don't like which we don't see. As for Ferdinand and Carrick it's better to get in steady, unspectacular players who won't kick up a fuss than these big time charlies who didn't fancy the shame of being on the reserve list. It's nothing to do with favouring Liverpool- their players just haven't acted like ****s.
Carrick sat on the bench for England during 2 world cups without kicking up a fuss, he only managed to play in a single group game even though he was a regular in the team dominating English football. I can definitely understand why he didn't really want to be on the standby list, he's not getting any younger and has probably decided to concentrate on his club football where he plays regularly.
I don't blame him at all if he doesn't want to play but it doesn't seem to stop people bleating that he should be in the team.
To be fair Hodgson probably made it worse by making claims that he would contact Carrick if he was needed saying the situation was similar to one he dealt with while in charge of Switzerland when Capuisat got injured, but instead he chose to hide behind the FA saying that he hasn't contacted him because they had talked to him previously.
I don't think he's hiding behind anything. He has a very finite amount of time to turn this group of mediocre dross into a competitive outfit and he probably can't be bothered with players who aren't going to buy into his way of doing things when he can work with guys like Henderson and Kelly who are decent footballers but will play how he wants.
How does Carrick not wanting to be on a standby list translate to him not buying into Roy's way of doing things or playing how he wants?
