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Liverpool prevented from poaching players

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by valleyswan, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. MabonJack

    MabonJack New Member

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    You are right there knackered, if another club were to put a bid in for our players and swansea were going to sell to to another club, liverpool would be well within their rights to top the bid for that player, we would be breaking european trading laws if we did not acknowledge liverpools bid, if you remember martinez also said that he would not bid for one of our players unless another club put a bid in when he went, same thing

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  2. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    like i have said all along. that brendan can come in for our players if he so wishes so jinks is a liar saying we have a clause as that is impossible....Brendan Has AGREED to not poach our players for 12 months...AGREED meaning that jinks asked liverpool if they would do that and luckily for us liverpool AGREED....i rest my case that no such clause can ever exist.....a club to club gentleman's agreement..<ok>
     
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  3. valleyswan

    valleyswan Active Member

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    Brendan has agreed nothing, the clubs have agreed through huw and whoever has the right to agree it with Liverpool. It's a commercial binding agreement signed by both clubs, you haven't actually backed your argument with nothing but opinion by you, if you wish I can back my argument, but I feel you will still argue that white is black.

    And Liverpool has agreed not to come in for our players with the swans as you state, but it is no gentlemans agreement, in business that doesn't exist as it can be broken with no comeback.
     
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  4. neveroffsidereff

    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    Valley your wasting your time with this one.
     
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  5. valleyswan

    valleyswan Active Member

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    So it seems, just repeating that no clause can exist without actually stating facts is making the discussion pointless
     
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  6. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    I am not going to argue with you but im spot on...what does liverpool AGREE mean.<doh>I know my football and the rules reguarding players rights.....so i will not bother to talk about this anymore and you can think what you like but you will be 100% wrong..<ok>
     
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  7. valleyswan

    valleyswan Active Member

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    Okay so it's rules then, now point me to the FA or Fifa rules that encompass this, and I'll point you to legislation that debunk what you are saying. Legislation by the way are laws of the land, laws supersede any rules that are allegedly in place.

    I await your final response on this, or are you going to just argue that you know you are right without any proof at all ?
     
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  8. swanee

    swanee Well-Known Member

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    Thank feck for that.
     
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  9. Crackerjack

    Crackerjack Active Member

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    Brendan will want our players to come over easy to Liverpool , instead of poached .But on the sunny side of things , any of our players would bring big money if they are ever sold on , after we've payed peanuts ... It's all good !
     
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  10. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    just read and make sure it sinks in that NO CLAUSE exists or can ever exist due to players rights...it is an AGREEMENT only between both clubs...now be man enough to say i am right and you doubters are wrong...i wont hold my breath on that....<ok>

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    BRENDAN Rodgers has vowed not to "destroy" Swansea City after it was revealed the new Liverpool manager has agreed not to sign any Swans players for a year.

    Swansea chairman Huw Jenkins said he had settled a "12-month respite" with Rodgers, allaying fears that the likes of Joe Allen and Ashley Williams could follow the Northern Irishman to Anfield.

    Rodgers admits he would be interested in signing his former players if they were to become available, but he is keen not damage the team he built during his two successful seasons in South Wales.

    "I don't want to destroy a brilliant time and a brilliant relationship," said Rodgers.

    "There's no doubt a host of players there that can play for a big club.

    Destroy

    "Naturally, though, if there are players who are going to go, then I would want to be in the market for them.

    "But I certainly won't be looking to destroy the relationship that I have. Huw and I have become good friends."

    Jenkins echoed Rodgers's sentiment, and the chairman emphasised the fact that the pact between himself and the new Liverpool boss will prevent the Swansea player exodus to Anfield some fans may have feared.

    "I have a good relationship with Brendan and we've got some protection with him coming back in for our players in the short term," said Rodgers.

    "We've got that agreement and a 12-month respite.

    "The most important thing is our relationship is intact.

    "We have to look after our own interests and look to continue in the right manner."

    One player many fear will follow Rodgers to Merseyside is Gylfi Sigurdsson.

    Swansea have agreed personal terms and a club record fee of £6.8 million for the Icelander, who scored seven goals during his loan spell at the Liberty this season, but the transfer is in doubt following Rodgers's departure.

    Holiday

    It was revealed in yesterday's Evening Post that Rodgers had urged Sigurdsson to complete his deal and sign for Swansea, but he has yet to undergo his medical.

    "We've done all we can with Gylfi agreeing terms and a fee," said Jenkins.

    "But he's gone away on holiday and we are hopeful of getting that tied up next week."


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  11. swanee

    swanee Well-Known Member

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    Dai you`re as bad a liar as Huw, you said you would`nt talk about this anymore. See.................................
     
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  12. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Where did you get that from Dai, as it does support your argument mate, fair play to you, you might well have a point here, though some papers are making it look like a 'contractual clause' that's written into the Transfer fee settlement! I don't pretend to know all the contract parameters of player rights, but you do make some sense on the issue!........................ <ok>
     
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  13. swans-m

    swans-m Well-Known Member

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    Swansea City have ensured that Liverpool will not be able to take any of their current playing squad*to*Anfield*over the short term.

    In the wake of Brendan Rodgers joining the Reds; Swans' chairman, Huw Jenkins,*revealed that a "protection clause" had been built into the*compensation agreement which saw*not only Rodgers but three of his trusted staff*leave the Liberty Stadium at a cost of*£7 million.

    Coach Colin Pascoe, assistant performance analyst Chris Davies and performance consultant Glen Driscoll have joined the backroom team Rodgers will now assemble.

    On the field Joe Allen, Neil Taylor and Ashley Williams have been the subject of transfer speculation but Jenkins has scotched suggestions that any of those players could be subject to a raid.

    "We have got some protection on Brendan coming back for our players in the initial period, which I think is the right thing,"*he said.

    "He has got a timescale to assess things there and that is going to take him while so I&#8217;ve got no worries there. We have got a 12 month respite."

    He added: "We are obviously very, very disappointed that we lost Brendan but things move on.

    "I think that naturally he has got massive belief in his ability and he felt that if he was the right candidate he would go forward. Obviously my only loyalty is to my football club and when we had Brendan working with us we wanted him for some years to come but the reality is that everyone has ambition and sometimes that ambition has to be realised."

    Suggestions that Liverpool could yet hijack the*deal to bring Gylfi Sigurdsson to South Wales on a permanent basis were also dismissed.

    The Iceland midfielder*enjoyed a loan spell with Swansea and was subject to an agreed*transfer fee with Hoffenheim before Rodgers accepted the task of succeeding Kenny Dalglish.*

    As yet*the deal has yet to be formally ratified. However, there is no suggestion that the £6.8 million deal will not go ahead according to Jenkins.

    "We have agreed a fee and personal terms but the problem is he has gone away to Europe on holiday and that has delayed the finalising of it," he commented.

    "We are hopeful of getting things moving next week, hopefully we can tie that up and get one or two things finished off."



    Look at the top, 'protection clause'!!!
     
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  14. swans-m

    swans-m Well-Known Member

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  16. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    thank you dragon your a man, now lets see if there are others who will say they were wrong and i was right...i doubt there will be many men who would admit they were wrong and i was right..<doh>
     
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  17. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Yes swans-m that's what I reposted to Dai on another thread, where the same debate was ongoing, to me it would seem logical to have that written in, and a player is not bound by this clause, only the clubs and manager, so from that point, I don't see that Dai hasn't a leg to stand on! anyway it's not 100% clear either way!.................. <ok>








    PS: Having just read that link by swans-m on the reds board, I think Dai you are wrong, as the wording on that link is "In the wake of Brendan Rodgers joining the Reds; Swans' chairman, Huw Jenkins, revealed that a "protection clause" had been built into the compensation agreement" so if it's built in, then it's written in contractually! Looks like you lost this one Dai............. <ok>
     
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  18. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    who do you believe. a news reporter or actual quotes from brendan and jinks???? you choose <laugh>
     
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  19. swans-m

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  20. valleyswan

    valleyswan Active Member

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    You still haven't pointed to these so called rules that stipulate that this clause cannot exist. Pointing to an article from a newspaper is not providing proof that clubs are not allowed to protect themselves when a manager leaves.
     
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