In a thread about a mural being painted in honour of William of Orange, you saw fit to comment on the "type of supporters who glorify murderers, they even name their teams after terrorists". I was pointing out that the Orange Order and its followers glorify murders and is named after a terrorist. I am glad I can enlighten you.
I was replying to Glasgabhouys comment on the orange order and the my team, my gang aspect. Watching the news last night there was no mention of what is replacing the mural at sandy row, just the fact it is being replaced. And rightly so imho. I have seen loads of 'loyalist' murals that have been painted over and replaced with celebrations of local heros who had no connection with terrorism or the troubles. Not sure that king william was a terrorist but that is down to the personal viewpoint.
I understand that David Irvines son is responsible for a lot of the revamping of murals. I heard him on the radio speaking very eloquently about it a couple of years back.
They haven't murdered a catholic in years. Actually more likely to kill each other with the internal feuds that go on. Don't see what the big deal is, paramilitary murals showing gunmen have been getting painted over for years now.
Which is a good thing. However I seem to remember a guy in Fermanagh being hounded out of his team because of his religion a few years ago. Hopefully this won't happen again.
And lets be honest about this, the tourist buses that weave their way aroung Belfast dont go to, for example, Botanic gardens, they take the tourists to see what the tourists want to see...... murals of the troubles. The news said that the mural at sandy row is 1 of the most photographed, same goes for the ones on the lower falls.
The lad himself described it as sectarian but honestly, he wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. His uncle and father were UDR men and I suspect that had as much to do with it as his beliefs. It was reported as Sectarian and dealt with as such and was met with an immediate response from the very top of the association. There are many clubs named after Protestant men, the most famous trophy in the GAA is named in honour of a Protestant, some of the most highly regarded officials in the GAA have come from the Protestant tradition.
Then I stand corrected. I have nothing against the GAA and work with a guy who plays for a club in South Armagh he says it a cultural thing as well as sporting. used to do a bit of work years ago for a guy who was a massive Tyrone fan and he offered to take me to games but I was advised against it.
because william (a republican fighting for dutch independence from spain) was supported by those who thought france was getting to powerfull. the reason as france and britain went to war against germany in 1914 was because it was thought that germany was getting too powerfull. Sorry but im a history fan.
I should add that I dont know whether that guy was the victim of sectarian abuse, or whether he wasn't. Just that there is more to it than that. A guy came to our club recently to do some coaching. He asked me if many people came to the club from "over there". I took that to mean the other side of the river. I also took that to mean members of the Unionist community..... The answer i gave him was that I have no idea......Because I have no idea. It has never come up before.
