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Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by UIR - Kagawa Powa, May 29, 2012.

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    True hes not but hes said hes going to. Pretty reliable really.
     
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    I think we can base these United fan's comments under 'wishful thinking'
     
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    How exactly.

    As I said Deloittie are not known for being wrong. Infact they are known for being very accurate.

    The £7million loss thing is wishful thinking, you are bankrolled by Roman. Wage bill is £191million, revenue £228million.
     
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    Didn't you read my post UIR? how is it wishful thinking
     
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    How? I said we as in Chelsea, we haven't confirmed anything, surely we would've done?
     
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    Which is why I said true but I dont think Hazard would say Chelsea unless everything but the official confirmation was sorted. His club has allowed him to say it according to Hazard and his national team coach who he was with at the time he announced it.

    It is weird how you havent announced it yet but maybe thats because the transfer window isnt open.
     
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    What is the £40+million that Uefa wont count? Is that AVBs and Carlos compo package lol?
     
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    Exceptions are basically one offs

    In the case of the 40mil:
    £28 million – £15 million termination for Ancelotti and his staff plus around £13 million compensation to Porto for AVB;
    £7.4 million – impairment of player registrations;
    £6.4 million – payments to HMRC to settle the industry wide investigation into taxation of image rights.

    You could say that incurring costs for fireing managers is normal for chelsea (lol), but in uefa's case they will see it as one offs
     
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    Basically we can spend 100mil and pay it back in increments for 5 years - 20mil per annum. It's not the fee's that's the problem it's the wages most of time.
     
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    Ah ok purley.

    £7million is a low number though, wonder if Uefa will see it the same as its down to how they judge your accounts in FFP terms not how the clubs accountants see them.
     
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    Grammatically makes no sense whatsover, please explain properly <ok>

    Short of it is that we sold out all our tickets and even I as a member with enough loyalty points was not able to get one in time. You were foolishly looking at the corperate seats in view of the camera assuming they were our fans.
     
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    The people who will be the biggest fans of FFP will be the owners themselves UIR. This is because FFp will turn the major football clubs into a licence to print money. Once the regulations are entrenched there should be no reason major clubs to make losses ever again. It will prevent anyone into breaking into the party bubuying an unfasionable club and pumping money into them.

    This is why Roman was one of the first few owners to support this idea.
     
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    Are you a dumbass? That 67million will have nothingg to do with FFP after exceptional loses are taken away...
     
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    Edit: didn't realise you were talking about a game that happened 5 years ago....
     
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    Thats why I have always said Chelsea should be ok aslong as they dont go mad. I do think Roman is on the verge of going mental in the market this summer but the CL win may just of saved him the trouble, or at least the worry.

    Chelsea and United along with Arsenal and Spurs were thye first clubs to accept FFP. United and Arsenal are obviously going to be happy about it as it works massively in favour of the 2 clubs. Both make huge revenues but importantly make big operating profits ( United debt isnt counted in FFP I dont think, the fact we pay it with relative ease is one reason but I dont think Uefa counts debt repayment figures ).

    I dont think any club fully understood the FFP rules at first, I think Chelsea thought they were untouchable but events over the last few years has shown that Chelsea were genuinely worried. Either they are super confident of passing after the CL win or they feel Uefa cant harm them. I suspect the former but I also think you may be set up so a CL final spot at the very least becomes the target for a season if you want to have some form of financial stability. Basically you need to be winning or at least playing in the CL final more often that not from now on.
     
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    Also what's ironic shwan is that you've probably never seen United play, let alone been to an FA Cup semi.
     
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    Even before the final Chelsea were already well ahead of meeting FFP, as shown by last year when Chelsea only got to the quarter finals. As long as chelsea brings in the right players, and the wages are the same or lower than the players who are going out, we should be fine.
     
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    City are a small club, Chelsea were prior to Roman at worst in the second tier behind United and Arsenal. They were in no way a small club. A big club which won trophies regularly would be closer to the truth. Now they are a massive club, I dont like the way they have done it, their fans probably dont give a **** but they are a massive club who have over the course of 20 years built themselves up from the second division to CWC and FA cup winners within what? 8 years and then Roman came along and payed for them to get to the next level.

    Like I said, I dont like it, loads hate it but I wouldnt call them a small club.

    City are a microscopic club so small that scientists are actually shrunk to 1 billionth of their original mass just so they can use the telescopes needed to see City on the footballing map. They even tried sticking a massive diamond on top of them to help make them more visable but its not working.
     
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    You do know Milan/Inter makes bigger loses than Chelsea? Can you see UEFA kicking them out?
     
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    And you finish inside the top 4. Had you not won the CL this season, things would of been very different. Not because you lose prize money this season, the difference as winner or runner up is nothing in football finance terms but if Chelsea fail to make the CL. You are in serious trouble.

    Thats why I think Romans going to spend big, to make sure this last season, in PL terms never happens again.
     
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