So its Brendan Rodgers... lucky man to have his career move so early and be set for life so best of luck to him.... Whomever it was the REAL story must simply be this. NO matter what people mouth off about our spending last year the reality is it was 40million net. City took 500mil to win the league and 300mil plus went through Eriksson and Hughes to get there. If LFC do not back this guy with a LOT of money there is simply no way he's going to be able to compete with the spending others can do As we speak Chelsea are finalizing 32mil for edin hazard and will spend 200mil+ probably this summer to rebuild their side, City have spend 500mil and utd have spent hugely on younger players and will spend again, the reality is we are looking at Arsenal, spurs and newcastle for 4th..... The reality is also we bought 7 players to rebuild a side decimated by G&H, we have aging players in there and in reality another 7 players would not go wasted at all at our club. Whatever the argument about successes and flops in that 7 we did at least buy 7.... I greatly hope FSG will back the new man with more and a miserly 30million to meet the ambition that led them to sack kenny. In short its got to be 300mil, not 30mil to buy 4th, either you build over time or you buy it... the rate at which we are losing players like carragher, gerrard, kuyt, maxi, bellamy and anyone who decides to jump ship means its going to be very hard to just evolve a side. We MUST put money where our mouth is. LEts see what happens over the next 3 months on that front.
So they have brought in a manager who works on a tight budget to give him millions to spend have they? Or just maybe he got the job because he works on a tight budget. There will be next to nothing I wager.
they brought in a manager, i'm not going to prejudge him as someone who's only going to work on a tight budget. Its up to FSG to give us their DoF system next and then spend to build a real side.
Hmm, I agree that Chelsea/United/City will spend massively this summer - they have do and can do. But I honestly don't believe you need to spend that much to make the top 4 and challenge. There are quality players out there for moderate prices, think 10-15mill range. Three or four really astute signings will really push us on. Arsenal are honestly not that much ahead of us, despite their dellusions, and most probably losing RVP which will cripple them. Once we're in the top 4, we can re-evaluate, but competing with Spurs/Arsenal (I won't include Newcastle yet tbh, I doubt they'll get close next year, but I will be happy to be proven wrong if they do) won't take as much investment as the top 3 (well, on paper for next year). The problem for me is that there's not much value in our squad apart from Suarez, Reina and Johnson. If the board don't invest, and I'm thinking circa 50mill this year, we'll have to sell to buy and we need to be keeping these players for now. The owners have always said the money is there for young, high potential players. They've not really proven this so far. If, for example, Eriksen (I know he's not) is available for 25mill, will they go get him if Rodgers wants him? I'm not sure... Edit: Rodgers has proven he can find good players on a budget, which is probably a big appeal to the board, but now he needs to find bargain players at a level higher.
You don`t really know much about football do you? Your club has consistantly outspent the majority of clubs over the past 10-15 years but not wisely. You now say your new manager should be given more money to spend in in one window than than he has spent in his career. muppet.
Awww: poor baby, you go wave your new player at the Asian market maybe you'll become a two billion company and can offer scholes two years next time. Meanwhile Chelsea & City will buy all the players that used to bat their eyelids at you.
The problem is, if we had £300M, who would we buy? Pick a name, any name, do you honestly think they would come here, with an untried young manager? Half that money would be spent on wages, just to get older mercenaries to to tip up. The truth of the matter is, we will not be getting any of the players we have heard talked about in the press, we will be getting Islandic player who cannot get into their home team, and we have to hope that one or two are diamonds in the rough. Our prestige has just plummeted through the floor. All our buys will be met by "Who???" Now, I'm not slagging the guy off, but he will need to build his own prestige over 5 years before we start getting anyway decent names. He will need to prove himself in the Europa next year, because he has ZERO European experience as a manager. I know he has been about, and has picked stuff up, but if he doesn't have a good run this year, it will be a few years before he gets another crack at it, so you had all better pray that somehow, there is a miracle, and the senior players overcome their primal subconscious inclinations, and actually pull it out of the bag, but I think that, Pepe, Skrtel and Suarez have already emailed their transfer requests in.
Although I have to say if they've a spare 300 mill around maybe they could build that stadium instead.
Way to look at the bright side of things... The man hasn't even officially been given the job yet and you are saying these players are going to leave? Torres, Gerrard, Reina, ALL STAYED during Hodgson ill fated few months. If they can stay for him I would think they would stay for Rodgers.
Please explain where your response has anything to do with my post? Or are you playing the Lfc victim card again?
not just a game, I'm not going to rise to your wummery. if you want to go talk history do it elsewhere. All monies spent prior to G&H and borrowed by them were flushed down the toilet. I have pointed out that FSG are the guys who if they want 4th either have to evelove a tema over a period and have to do it in light of losing several players shortly OR buy 4th. that is the relaity of the modern game. FSG took us over for 200mil, that's a song in all honesty and G&H lost their shirts on it. If they sack kenny because they cannot see him evolving that side over the next years to where it could be then I am of the opinion that no manager in the world would evolve it with 30million... which in all honesty would barely get you two players these days.... it would not get you Hazard, aguero or mata... it'd get you ashely young and half of phil jones (who's injured so much i think utd only bought half of him) It is my opinion that 6 players at least are required to build a real competitive squad and that's in the short term. If you remove players close to retirement that number rises. this is the elephant i nthe room. Rodgers has wlked into a huge task and the question must be will he get whats required to deliver on the goals set?
And what has you response got to do with his post? How was he playing the victim? A pointless stab at us? I think so.
Not much, but then you said nothing to begin with. You apparently were childishly name calling because someone made an argument that the owners of HIS club should give HIS manager money to spend. The amounts were irrelevant to you. It was simply an excuse. Then in response to me you go off on some illogical cliched tangent about victim hood that exists only in the small minds of WUMS. To be childish myself; this makes you nothing but a f*cking moron that is wasting some of his life on this thread: I take heart in the last thought.
In 'normal' circumstances I would tend to agree that there must be significant funds made available. However, with the financial chaos within the Eurozone and the scandal within Italian football, I truly believe that there will be quality players available at lower than 'market price' after the Euros. Add to that the relationships that we are trying to build in both North and South America and we could find some rare diamonds at a knockdown price. The challenge for FSG will be to match both Chelsea and City on the pitch whilst keeping firm control on the spending. That is why I do not believe that the buying of players will be left solely in our new manager's hands.
Sorry Mito but i do not get why a home truth is wumming, but anyway,,, Up until today the majority of Lfc supporters have been saying (on numerous posts) Lfc are only one or two players away from top four. You get a new manager and all of a sudden you are saying he should be given a £300mil budget. KK bought £100 mil of players last season so which one is it?
Just as with your club where supporters differ as to how many players you need to buy and how much you need to spend, the same is true at LFC. In all fairness to MITO, he has said nothing above that conflicts with statements that he was making during last season.
I'm not sure these people who are saying that many millions of pounds needs to be pumped in to Liverpool to show that FSG plan to evolve the club can have paid any attention in English or Biology at school. Evolving means to do it gradually over a (usually) prolonged period of time and it is entirely consistent with their comments if they appoint a young manager and give him a moderate budget every year £10-£15m with the remit of gaining a few more points each year and developing the team with an aim for a few years down the line. The idea of spending £300m to overhaul half the squad is what you'd call a revolution surely? I think you may need to be patient to be honest.
