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FSG..Give it a rest

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Molby...The Pass Master, May 30, 2012.

  1. Molby...The Pass Master

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    So many so called "fans" giving John Henry and the board stick for not appointing a manager straight away, maybe they need to grow a pair and stop beliving the speculation in the media.

    Mr Henry is in my opinion conducting himself in the right manner. No running to the rags, no talking to the press, no adding fuel to the speculation fire. He's taking his time to ensure the right man is found. We all forget that 18 months ago the club was a total mess due to the leaches that where Hicks and Gillette, we came within 48 hours of adminstration these problems were never going to be resolved over night.

    When they appointed Kenny it was the right decision, he bought a calm to the previous storm that had raged. However last season was a failure, if Roy had been in charge no one would have batted an eyelid at his sacking.

    John Henry is putting the right people in charge to take the club forward, look at the appointments behind the scene's designed to improve us commercially and in the eye's of the media.

    Whoever is appointed will only be so after they have shown to be the right man to carry us forward. Why rush when taking this time will help to ensure the mistakes of previous season's are not repeated.

    We all need to stop demanding instant answers, and respect tha board for conducting there search throughly and professional. Whilst doing it the right way in maintaining there silence and diginity.
     
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  2. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    I think that you will find that more than a few of us have already echoed these sentiments in other threads.

    As for the media, you have to accept that this is the silly season for them. The Euros and the Olympics, Wimbledon, etc. are still to come and very little is really happening in the football world - yet they have pages to fill! Hence the crap that they are filling them with.
     
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  3. Denny Kalglish

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    Yep agree 100% with OP. Critisise FSG in 4 or 5 years if things have gotten worse than they have been for the last 20 odd, not now. We have to give them a chance.
     
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  4. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    To some people...sacking a manager for our worst season in 50 years is the same as on the verge of going into administration.
     
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  5. Denny Kalglish

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    I can understand it tho, Kenny is quite rightly considered a legend, and it's hard to reconcile. Kenny is as close as one man could get to being more important than the club.

    But we HAVE to move on. Liverpool 2.0
     
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  6. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    I understand why everyone is angry at the decision, but to call them 'H&G 2.0' (see what I did there?) is silly. If we go into next season with little progress then they should expect even more flak from fans and rightly so but it will be for different reasons to H&G.
     
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  7. StJohn_Red_Legend

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    Here comes my tuppence...


    I find the whole preceding actions before the current situation concerning - not panicking, mind.

    The owners, FSG, appointed Kenny with a three year contract. Fair enough, given the end of season run.

    They back the new management team in the transfer market to the tune of £23million net, but of course, the outlay is over £100 million of talent coming in - Carroll, Adam, Downing, Henderson, Coates, Enrique. Half is expected to make an immediate impact, but, Enrique aside, Adam and Downing failed to produce the expected goods. The other half (Carroll, Henderson, Coates) are investments for the future.

    Having given the backing to Kenny and the management team, following a poor season in the league and failing to achieve 4th, they decide to 'go back to their original plan' and jettison Kenny, Commoli, Clarke etc.

    What disturbs me most is that the decision to remove the management was made without ensuring this 'original plan' was in place, including personnel approached discretely.

    I would have expected this to have taken place after Hodgson was removed. Have they really had this plan in mind, or does it sound better than a panic move by FSG?
     
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  8. antidistinctlyminty (ADM)

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    any word from our official spokesman

    DAVE WHELAN - surprised he isn't camped outside anfield with a sky sports microphone in his hand
     
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  9. Denny Kalglish

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    There's a Photoshopped pic waiting to happen right there...
     
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  10. Noblelox

    Noblelox Well-Known Member

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    I think... And I have personally used the h&g 2.0 myself. Because, actually their record does mirror, h&g , with the exception of loading debt on the club. And while it is rational to know that they are nothing alike, it is wise to level the barb at them, to make them aware that like Kenny, they too are judged on results, and they have no credit left either.

    Now I'm not bothered with the time taken to appoint new management, as I'd prefer them to get it right, but they do need to be aware of the level of expectation that is on them.
     
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  11. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Something is surely about to happen. John Henry is here and I doubt that he would be if we were still in the early stages of interviewing candidates. Add to that Radio 5 Live are continually stating that we are about to talk to Rodgers. One way or another I expect some form of comment on Friday
     
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  12. Muppetfinder General

    Muppetfinder General Well-Known Member

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    These two statements are diametrically opposed. Sort your logic out then come back and post something that makes sense.
     
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  13. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    I truly don't understand that assessment of FSG and H&G. Off the pitch, FSG have already changed so many things in our commercial operations that the 2 are as different as chalk and cheese. Sure, let them know about our expectations - that's fair and proper but don't for one minute believe that their corporate objectives are anything like H&G!
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    IMO people are prejudging FSG and not really waiting to see their real actions.

    they are doing the following:

    1. ignoring the very consistent stadium message fsg have given and demanding a 70k stadium for some reason.

    2. are concerned about net spend when i just feel buying 7 players in 12 months was the very best anyone could do... do people not see how long it took city? we didn't spend on january and it's obvious fsg then knew what they'd do this summer in getting shut of comolli and kenny. Judge spending over time guys, I have said on this site that no matter what it'll tkae 300mil not 30mil to compete. i'll judge but what happens.

    3. are seemingly thinking we are going to do another hodgson no matter who or what structure comes in.... are we seeing an easy option being taken or bad advice? well i don't know and didn't want kenny to go but I could see why they did it from results.... lets see what the people coming in do up to aug 31 and then for at least 3 months i nthe job before judging.... and yes it could be another hodgson but those are the risks.... utd eventually will face the same dilemma.... they did after busby.. arsenal did after graham.... we just need to wait and see.
     
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  15. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    5 Live now announcing that Rodgers WILL be the next manager without a DoF.
     
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  16. Redbrynner

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    They are doing a great job of giving us extensive media coverage.

    On top of this in the nest few days there is going to be an announcement, not just giving us a new manager, but a whole new setup, a setup that has not been regularly or ever used in the top echelons of world football. therefore, for the next season, eyes will be on us constantly to see how it works, constant media attention and speculation will be given, which only serves to increase our image worldwide........

    These guys are marketing geniuses, all they have to do now, is make sure we are actually capable of playing a bit of football aswell......As if all their careful laid plans dont give an improvement in results, then the publicity will turn us into some kind of poisoned chalice joke club
     
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  18. ShanksHateTheMancs

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    Whilst I have not personally criticised FSG I do not think anyone has the right to condemn those that have! We as fans have the right and to be honest the duty to ask questions and demand that things are done right and in the best interests of the club. Freedom of speech is still alive(for the time being anyway), if you don't have a problem and don't feel the need to question some decisions fine, just don't condemn those that do and profess you are somehow a better fan!
     
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  19. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    my brief answer to that is SOD OFF!

    There was no condemnation in my reply. I began the post by saying "I truly don't understand" and then went on to give my reasons. That does not make me a BETTER fan - just one who has a contrary opinion. So, as far as I am concerned, check your facts before you start throwing out accusations.

    H&G's purchase of the club was a leveraged buyout which damn near killed us. FSG promised and have kept their word that their purchase would not be leveraged on the club. For starters there is one essential difference!
     
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  20. ShanksHateTheMancs

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    Calm down sweetie, did I quote you specifically?
     
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