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In the hands of the creditors now?

Discussion in 'Rangers' started by Girvan Loyal 1690, May 30, 2012.

  1. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    Is that where we are? I caught the very end of Green on SSN this morning. What's the latest?
     
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  2. Barrie Lochrie

    Barrie Lochrie New Member

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    8p or 9p in the £.
     
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  3. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    HMRC will sink us to put the message out I think. :(
     
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  4. Rustie bugmuncher

    Rustie bugmuncher Well-Known Member

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    or if you lose the btc about 0.5p in the pound. great day for ally and the big hoose hun yesterday, the pasty tax is finished
     
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  5. Barrie Lochrie

    Barrie Lochrie New Member

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    It's up to Ticketus. If they accept along with the rest of the Creditors, then HMRC's protestations are null and void.
     
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  6. Mind The Duck

    Mind The Duck Well-Known Member

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    All the Freeholdings are worth 100 million.....eh but only 4 million on a cva

    Shut the hell up
     
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  7. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    You read this pish in the Beano or the Dandy EDGE?
     
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  8. Go G YellowScreen

    Go G YellowScreen Well-Known Member

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    Did I read correctly that Green is buying Rangers by loaning them £8.5m?

    Sounds like a good, solid plan <whistle>
     
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  9. Barrie Lochrie

    Barrie Lochrie New Member

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    We know that if a CVA is to be agreed, then 75% of the Creditors are needed for it to happen.

    If the creditors pot is £55m, and HMRC make up £12m then that's less than 25%.

    For the record, I don't think a CVA will happen, but we live in hope.
     
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  10. Barrie Lochrie

    Barrie Lochrie New Member

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    I know, it's fkin bullshit.

    FFS - I could buy Rangers they way these ****s operate.

    It's all becoming clear to me, Whyte, D&P, Green, Ellis all in cahoots, this has been the plan all along, Get Rangers, lose the debts, sell in 5 years for ££££'s.
     
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  11. MrT

    MrT Well-Known Member

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    Interesting article on a Scots political website on this. This is their take on the 100 million valuation.

     
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  12. simon_bhoy

    simon_bhoy Well-Known Member

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    T is right - as an asset it only realises ANY value in a football context

    also HMRC do have to look at what their best return is going forward - long term no rangers means less for the taxman - folks seem to be forgetting that future earnings can be taken into account by admins when determining how best to dispose of the club and assets

    example - billy's pie shop is owed £500.00 - now billy could say "i dont want 10p in the pound - wind it up and ill get slightly more", but what does that do to billy's future business model? he may be down 40000 pie sales each fortnight

    that said - gren is clearly trying to floof you - i dont think duff and phelps are though
     
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  13. Null

    Null Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    HMRC are listed as due 26m in the CVA tho - more than ticketus.
     
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  14. Barrie Lochrie

    Barrie Lochrie New Member

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  15. simon_bhoy

    simon_bhoy Well-Known Member

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    yeah but by those figures edge HMRC are owed 14.4 m

    thus 26% of all monies owed - this meaning they can block a CVA
     
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  16. Null

    Null Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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  17. Go G YellowScreen

    Go G YellowScreen Well-Known Member

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  18. Mind The Duck

    Mind The Duck Well-Known Member

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    A quote from the proposal

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    ".....it requires the approval of 75% or more in value of the creditors ,and more than 50% in value of the members,voting on the resolution.

    Does this mean its not just up to Ticketus and HMRC for a yes vote?
     
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  19. Null

    Null Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    They owe the company I work for cash!!!! <grr>

    Daily Record £300 - that poor we paper boy!!
     
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  20. Thomas The Cat

    Thomas The Cat Well-Known Member

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    I found the loan idea strange Rangers are currently running at £400k a loss per month if you increase the expenditure by taking on a £8.5m loan your now running at over £500k a month loss.

    Rangers will be worse off than under Whyte and they failed to trade successfully under Whyte.

    There is no real way to increase income and Murray Park and Ibrox a bound to be used to fund this increasing lease costs also.

    We already know that Green plans to use part ownership in acquiring players from the guy that walked after the appeal failed so another revenue stream is reduced.

    I think Rangers fans should pray the CVA is rejected and the assets are bought by someone else otherwise you will be at such a disadvantaged trading position compared to Celtic you will not compete consistently (although refs could even things up here <harrysmiley>).

    All pure guesswork.
     
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