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Remember When This Thread Was About Joel Ward? Those Were The Days...

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by Simon21-LUFC, May 9, 2012.

  1. Old Peacock

    Old Peacock Well-Known Member

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    Boab, I think you have to be careful how far you take devolution. Otherwise in a few years we might have to kick you out of the Pound <whistle>
     
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  2. bigfatboab

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    There talk of a Dollar being introduced, but nothing more than that! I'd prefer a return to the old ways of dealing in cattle. If your owed a cow and they don't give it to you, you can take their home etc...:laugh:
     
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  3. bigfatboab

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  4. Old Peacock

    Old Peacock Well-Known Member

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    The scary part is with Scottish notes already in circulation it would be easier for Scotland to leave the Pound than Greece the Euro :emoticon-0120-doh:

    Lets hope it never happens and we let the Union continue,

    If you think about it Boab us English have been letting Scots run England for years & your the ones that want more control and independence...
     
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  5. Jerel Ifil

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    Churchill was your standard fat politician pig.

    Bigoted views, increased the size of the state, drunkard, populist, warmongerer and a total and utter ****.

    How anyone could hold that piece of **** as a hero is beyond me.

    Criminal in a suit.
     
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  6. Simon21-LUFC

    Simon21-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    ?
     
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  7. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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  8. bigfatboab

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    An appreciation of Churchill's actual, full record leads to only one conclusion: he was an entirely contemptible man, one whose policies led to destruction and death on an incomprehensible scale. I can only echo Ralph Raico's final judgement:
    When all is said and done, Winston Churchill was a man of blood and a politico without principle, whose apotheosis serves to corrupt every standard of honesty and morality in politics and history. The tenacity of the Churchill myth is instructive: the kind of idolatry focused on Churchill (and Reagan, and several others similarly situated and even on Bush by his most ardent and self-blinded worshippers) reveals a gross kind of immaturity on the part of a distressingly large number of people. Without their Great Men to whom they can turn for protection in times of danger, they appear to feel utterly helpless and to believe they are doomed to destruction. That may represent an accurate judgment as to the courage of the idolators themselves but it may also unmask an attitude of boundless contempt for mankind in general.
    Churchill, in his works on World War II, "laid the foundation of a legend that is nothing less than a straightforward travesty of the historical truth. But the Churchill version of World War II and its prehistory remains unshaken, the power of his eloquence extends beyond the grave." (From Shattering the Churchill Myth: Facing Facts, and Becoming Adult, 2006)
     
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  9. Jerel Ifil

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    Blimey, that's a good piece!

    'Apotheosis', eh? "The glorification of a subject to divine level". Might have to use that on the other forum regarding some of their views on Mr Chairman! <laugh>
     
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  10. Whitejock

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    Churchill was responsible for tanks and 10,000 english troops being sent to Glasgow to quell workers protests against the 54 hour week and poor working conditions. They even confined the local Scottish troops to barracks! It's the only time tanks have rolled in this country against the public. And some on this board don't believe in Unions. Wonder how they'd like working 54 hours a week for buttons. They have a lot to be grateful for. I salute the early Union members, who often literally put their lives on the line. bates appears to have the same mentality, and I despise both. bates saving LUFC & Churchill saving the world as we know it. Yeah, right!

    A version of the story, if anyone's interested ... http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/e...-on-to-the-streets-of-glasgow-86908-21066238/
     
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  11. Josh-LUFC

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    Huh, this thread hasn't changed subject at all.....
     
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  12. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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    Yes it has.

    Originally it was about Joel Ward; now it's about the virtues of Scottish independence and the life and times of Winston Churchill.
     
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  13. Josh-LUFC

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    To be fair it is the next logical subject to take place I suppose
     
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  14. Jerel Ifil

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    I heard the next subjects of discussion are poised to be the difference between Ionic and Doric columns and the plight of Dudley town centre.
     
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  15. Josh-LUFC

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    Not before the discussions of sun spots and how they may affect us in the future
     
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  16. JonnyLosAngeles

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    I still think we should be discussing USA v Scotland last weekend! <somersault>
     
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  17. Whitejock

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    Nah. After a battle, the victors always rewrite history.
     
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  18. Simon21-LUFC

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    YES!!! My specialist subject!
     
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  19. bigfatboab

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    The history, geography and people of Dudley there is enormous potential. Scope exists to create an exceptional place in which to live, work, learn and enjoy the very best of urban living.

    Dudley already has many special qualities, but it needs some care and attention to fulfil the potential that exists. It is hoped that this framework will reveal opportunity; cultivate civic pride and instil confidence in the future. The plan is not about radical change but sensitive interventions to attract new residents, capture new investment, nurture enterprise, and to repair and restore the historic fabric of the town in a planned and co-ordinated way.

    The vision is of a town that is at the forefront of the revival of the Black Country sub-region which is looking to reshape and reassert its role over the next 30 years. Dudley will be a town which serves the needs of its local population and which remains the strong focus for civic life, for shopping, working, tourism and education. Dudley also needs to become a place with a much richer mix of shops, cafes, restaurants, small businesses and creative enterprises.

    The key to unlocking this potential is to increase the number of people that make their home in the town centre. New high quality housing is needed right in the heart of the town. This can be achieved through conversion, infill and redevelopment within a framework of beautiful streets and public spaces. The strategy which underpins the framework focuses upon creating the same conditions that attract people to live in the very best of the UK&#8217;s market towns such as Lewes, Stamford, Tunbridge Wells and Bridgnorth. Dudley has the raw materials in its fine buildings, historic streets, the stunning castle mound and its loyal, industrious and close knit community to achieve this ambition.

    A more intense concentration of people will generate the demand for more and for better local shops and services. Confidence and optimism will follow from a buoyant housing market and a growing population. A town with these qualities naturally becomes a place that people also want to visit.

    You can't argue with this, although I'm sure some will.....Independence for Dudley?


    Dudley Says Maybe
     
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  20. Jerel Ifil

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    I mention it because I remember it being an example of a 'doughnut town' in GCSE Geography where the centre has bugger all going on since everything's moved out of town to suburban shopping complexes.

    Fascinating stuff, right?
     
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