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Noblelox thinks FSG are full of s#!%£!!!

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Noblelox, May 28, 2012.

  1. Noblelox

    Noblelox Well-Known Member

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    I have the seeking suspicion that FSG are making the the process overly complex as a show of misdirection, and will eventually give the top job to Martinez, without actually seeing any other candidates.

    We've heard talk of other people being approached, but as far as I can see, no other candidate has been out to see Henry. All this 12 candidates bollox is just to give the fans time to get use to the idea of the yanks accepting mid-table mediocrity for the next few years.
     
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  2. Kyle?

    Kyle? New Member

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    Why is it so hard to find yourself a manager? It's not as if they're taking over at Scunthorpe, you're still a pretty big club.
     
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  3. Noblelox

    Noblelox Well-Known Member

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    Talking of Scunthorpe...when the council introduced all the fancy internet filtering, all their email dried up. They had to permit the word "****" to get anything, as it was filtering the town's name out of everything.

    So for the fun of it, you can email Scunthorpe council employees and call them ****s, as the filter has to let it through.

    True story.
     
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  4. Kyle?

    Kyle? New Member

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    Cool, didn't know that. I'll rep you for that interesting tale.
     
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  5. Agent Bruce

    Agent Bruce Well-Known Member

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    You live and learn something new everyday on not606.
     
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  6. terryerr

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    I think it's more the media that have put forward the 12 candidates, but I think FSG have higher targets than mid-table mediocrity, otherwise why would they bother ?
     
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    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    Yep - because that's how you make money out of a franchise - run it into the ground <doh>

    Kenny was obviously not mid-table enough....perhaps the cup win was a step too far <doh> <doh>

    Seriously though, we do have to get used to the idea that the way to grow a football franchise is OFF the field but you do need success ON it to grow quickly - this is why the Suarez issue was massive to FSG....A huge own goal! FSG know what needs to be done off the pitch, just hope they know football well enough to execute it on the pitch.
     
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  8. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    There's a section on the FSG website...................FSG thinks Noblelox is full of s#!%£!!!
     
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  9. Denny Kalglish

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    I am right behind FSG tbh. What people seem to be overlooking is that this is a NEW dawn. The likes of Lauro etc may be right but hankering for a good old school mgr and a return to the way we used to do things isn't going to change our fortunes. Weve tried the traditional methods and haven't won the league for 23 yrs.

    Come on FSG shake it up a bit more I say!!
     
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  10. Smerch

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    Must say i hadnt noticed scunthorpe before this thread
     
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  11. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Just to be serious for a moment. Nobelox seems to be forgetting the other management changes that FSG have put into place with the appointment of both a Commercial Director and Communications Director who are both FSG appointees. These guys are not messing about when it comes to the commercial operations of LFC. Far too much attention is being paid to the Team Manager/Coach position as the be all and end all of the matter.

    I'm not saying that what happens on the pitch is not important because it is. I am saying that John Henry will not be bounced into another appointment - not by Martinez or Wheelan or whoever. If the appointment takes time then so be it. FSG already know that whilst the market is open, very little will be done until after the Euros. Hence he has a window in which to talk to and/or negotiate with lots of potential candidates. He does have 2 aces in his hand. Firstly the opportunity itself and secondly his history with both RedSox and now LFC - that's the target now meet it!

    If the martinez thing works out then so be it. If not we move on.
     
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  12. Denny Kalglish

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    Yea this.

    I have been banging on about the structure being the key here, not individuals.
     
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  13. Noblelox

    Noblelox Well-Known Member

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    Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling Martinez ****, but he is a manager that will need to build his own team from nothing to earn respect. We are heading for another AvB at Chavski, I can't see our "senior" players giving Martinez anything, so either he gets the sack next Christmas, or he has 5 years to buy unknowns and mould them.

    As it stands, if we got a manager in that demands respect, the current squad is not too far off, and 2 maybe 3 additional signings could see us compete, but thinking Martinez is going to hit the ground running with this squad, if stoopid. He will need a 5 year rebuild, during which time we will be mid-table mediocrity.

    So as long as FSG know they are doing what Chavski did last season, and they comprehend the fall-out from that, we can set expectations, but if come Christmas, we have only won 6 games and every every fair weather fan is ranting to talk sport and SOS are demonstrating on match days, and we're all spewing bile, and FSG have the guts to stick to their plan... well bully for us!
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    we were on a 5 year rebuild when they appointed kenny. ergo if there's zero patience unless your 4th then i think it doesn't matter who's appointed.

    senior players not working cos the manager isn't famous enough is a disease of the modern game and frankly that won't change.

    finally... in the case of the spuds they were rock bottom before sacking ramos.. and instantly those self sample players end up zooming up the table and then the next season finished 4th. I think there's enough under performers to improve if the new man is given any chance.. cos frankly if you think we'll be in that position next christmas you're barmy.
     
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    Unless they're completely stupid the senior players at a club must know that their days are numbered.
    Surely the best way for a new manager to deal with them is to talk to them and enlist their aid to move the team into the future?
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    well at chelski they don't seem to think so and have seen over numerous managers and want drogba to stay and rule the roost. (reality there is drogba knows there's no contract coming)

    all i can say is we are radically different to when hodgson took over, even he couldn't mess it up as badly again seeing he's got 2 strikers, not an uninterested torres and n'dog.. he's got midfielders now and defenders. All in all i'd expect that unless someone who knows nothing takes over that they can get the team to build on the start with kenny..... and yes kenny would have gotten us higher next year no question.
     
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  17. All scouse are scum.

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    OP you are correct,they are.
     
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  18. All scouse are scum.

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    You mention their red sox history but not their Florida history,why not? Isn't their abject failure there just as important?
     
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  19. BCR

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    or learned from their mistakes <ok>

    As many similarities you want to point out abou the Marlins you can point to other similarities with the Red Sox.

    Not as big a warning sign as Hicks company bankrupting Corinthians, if it were something like that I would be worried.
     
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  20. All scouse are scum.

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    If they had learnt then why are they sacking everyone they appointed just 18mths ago as part of their long term plan.
    Their first baseball club was a failure. We are their first soccer club and guess what. Our worst position in over 50 years is great success eh son.
    Now they are appointing people who they can easily reintegrate back in to FSG when they sell up which I think they will within the next 2 years.
    No stadium,no transfer money and worst position for 50 years. Can't ****ing wait for more of their success.
     
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