I've already shown you that the Iranian translation went out 5 days before the NYT article. They were the first people to run it and a lot of others took their translations from IRIB. His own people created that quote. How many times do I have to prove this?
Only irrelevant to your zionist views. Its not irrelevant for the people who lived there and were ousted and are being killed The problems started with the brits giving the Jews a homeland, european Jews that is, in a part of the world they had no right to Most ofthe palestinians arent even fighting for religious reasons, They fight under the flag of palestine not Islam. The jews are the only ones fighting under a religious banner This is where your hypocricy, idiocy and sheer stupidness shines through. You are willing to accept that there can be atheist jews, due to the role of the mother. Yet fail to realise that Jesus was a palestinian and the palestinians are all descended from the Jews, In essence they are as jewish by the rules as the atheists. Muslim-jews if you will
Just read this and proves my point that it was intentional. The clarification from the Iranian foreign minister was quick. Yet 5 days later the NYT ran the story anyway making who mistranslated in the first instance irrelevant Even I know what he said in Farsi and I am limited, you telling me the NYT didnt?
Seriously, out of all the Celtic posters, there is none who I would love to **** off as they make this site entertaining. You on the otherhand, are a worthless, piece of ****e who tells tales of being an I.T teacher (yet can't master the basics) who has all these kids (apparently with potential for MIT) who also owns all these businesses. You're an experiment gone wrong. Just **** off
hello dave, I acually spoke to my eldest today in detail about the kind of things that were being taught in IT currently, my eldest being 15 I can honestly say to you I taught none of that stuff in my day. ost compicated thing I taught was excel. However non of the stuff you suggested is taught either, unless its called different things As I said though I was a maths teacher anyway, once in you end up teaching allsorts (mother in law qualified as history teacher but was head of maths towards end of her career in a primary school near wigan) Oh and I have 7 kids, who it is umlikely will go to MIT, a good university non the less is desireable I run my own project management and consultancy firm, and I am a property developer These is facts my friend, facts.
I was actually going to respond to something else but saw your posts, so decided to respond to that do you ever sleep?
The source was Iran's own state-run media company. The clarification was self-serving, debatable and run after the story had been widely distributed. Why would they apologise for running a story that's not particularly inaccurate? Prove it. The first study completely disagreed with your claims. The second was a neo-Nazi making unsupported claims and you've yet to show that the third is unpublished. As usual, anyone that disagrees with your holocaust denial is a Zionist. You linked to unsupported claims on another neo-Nazi website. Every major religion has their own canon online, so it should be easy to provide a link to one with the claim of 6m on it. The same, tired, boring accusations. Nothing new to add to your frothing anti-Semitism? Iran's foreign minister clarified the comments in February 2006, several months after they'd been made. http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\02\22\story_22-2-2006_pg4_15 Don't let the truth get in the way of your claims though, Fan.
You seriously going to use this as your argument? This was way later and under different circumstances if you read the article Besides YOU as in PNP have said it was a mistranslation so what exactly is your issue here? it was a mistranslation and that is fact and the truth You just cant handle the truth Ps I am not a holocaust denier more a holocaust agnostic
@Fan Why don't you like Jews? I think they're alright. The orthodox ones look a bit daft in this weather, and those curly sideburns are ridiculous, but any that I've known have always been sound cunts .
I got nothing against Jews Jip, same as I have nothing against the brits really (married to one) I know hitler killed a lot of people and was a ****, I just believe that he killed a lot more indiscriminately than is being portrayed I dont even have isssues with Israel in all honesty, as a muslim the scriptures always showed it would happen and will be the cause of a huge conflict. What I have issue with is the blatant lies. Read up on the 6million figure and how many times it has been used to attempt an Israel before the 1940's or read up on how much support Israel gets from the US, and I mean properly. You will see that teh money is a drop in the ocean compared to other support People wont accept it even though its there in black and white Oh and I hate the way if you ask a question re the holocaust you instantly get labelled a 'denier' Look at mine and PNP's discussions. For a man who believes in science and asks for proof etc why when it comes to the holocaust is he afraid to question and those who do? EDIT : sorry Jip here is what I mean At the Nuremberg trials the Auschwitz camp's first commandant (Rudolf Höss) testified that up to 3m jews were killed there. This was in the final 6m figure reached after the trials since then this figure has been revised to 1.3m and not all of those were jews.
What he said isn't open to direct translation, as every single party involved has said, so anything's going to be an interpretation. His own website still runs the quote, so he clearly doesn't think that an apology is necessary. http://web.archive.org/web/20110716100837/http://www.president.ir/en/?ArtID=10114 And that's perfectly consistent with a reaction to what Ahmadinejad actually said. What do you think is an accurate translation of what he said? You won't find the Krege study either, despite the work having been done in 1999, yet you find that convincing. The first study was completely set against the conclusions that you've somehow come to and I proved it. You're just a holocaust denier because of your bigotry. You did nothing of the sort. You linked to a neo-Nazi site. If it's there, then prove it's there and stop saying, "Well this Nazi says it's there, so I believe him". I rest my case. This was the incident that you're referring to. Feel free to link to something showing an earlier statement by Iran's foreign minister, if it's not. It's an inexact translation, but as I've said repeatedly, virtually anything's going to be slightly off, as shown by the fact that there's no definitive translation. One of us can't handle the truth, I'd agree, but it's pretty obvious which one. I've repeatedly shown that you're wrong, why you're wrong and backed it up with evidence. You've repeatedly made baseless claims and failed to back up a single thing, resorting to insults and lies, instead. It's typical of your thinking, frankly.
ok just tell me this, did ahmedinejad say it? My claim was he didnt edit: simon peres in may 2006 was still perpetuating the mistranslation and gordon brown in 2008 said "To those who believe that threatening statements fall upon indifferent ears we say in one voice – it is totally abhorrent for the president of Iran to call for Israel to be wiped from the map of the world." 3 years later and despite the proof, it still goes on to make Iran look evil
Is questioning something wrong? Are the offical revisions of those killed in Aushwitz anti-semetic? I thought anti semetic was a hatred of jews?
So, as usual, I point out the mistakes that Fan's made and show exactly why he's wrong, providing proof and he just says that he's not and provides nothing. Completely dishonest and obviously anti-Semitic. Allah doesn't like liars, Fan.
