When will he learn?

Racist remarks do not necessarily mean someone is a racist I agree.

Im not in the least bit sexist in my beliefs, but as soon as some "feminist" (read FemNazi) starts spouting off you'd better believe the next thing I say will be designed to outrage them as much as humanly possible. Some things are just said to provoke a response without necessarily meaning the people who say them believe the things said.

He should have just apologised and moved on. The way it was handled and tools like Nobelox just embarrass your club.

 

Yes agreed. Even if was a half hearted apology - because lets face it he didn't apologies because he didn't think he was in the wrong.


To be honest it should be dead and buried by now - so the media that keep bringing it up (and Suarez) should just move on

 

I get racially abused for being white on a daily basis in a 'nice racist' way......

 

He has no justifications for his actions.

 

it still goes on

Constcrepe has serious bitterness issues.

Nothing was proven by anyone, everything is probably and Mancs have reiterated this over and over and then contradict it buy saying "what he did" or "He did" when they have no fkn clue, as I have no fkn clue, everyone is going on the kangaroo hearing and media reports when it is just impossible? right, impossible that BOTH Suarez and Evra are to nancy moaning lying little pampered sh!ts.

The fact that constcrepe takes up this handbags says a lot about the dude, bloody sandy vagina

 

@ Berb

You are sh!t fast at labelling everything dude, sure trait of a bigot and racist

 

fixed for ya

 

Sh*ts like Noblelox and BBF should think F**king twice before coming here and giving it large. They f**king forget that it was that sh*t racist Suarez who revived that whole incident. Not us here. So before they f**king come here all righteous they ought to look at their own back garden. We certainly would not have reminded them of their club's and their buffoon ex-manager's Discredited and shameful behaviour if that piece of sh*t had not restarted it all.

 

Ah so next season then

 

Get your facts straight mate. The decision COULD NOT be appealed, only the punishment could be appealed...and I guess that given the ridiculous fact that the FA have a 99.5% conviction rate then any appeal would presumably lead to a longer ban!

Answer this simple question, what did (and how many times) did Suarez call Evra? Fergie said it was n*****r 5 times, Evra said it was n*****r and negro 10 times, the FA said it was negro and blackie 7 times, Suarez said it was negro once.

Now if the FA are to be believed then Evra, Fergie and Suarez have all lied. So why was Evra seen to be reliable if it is clear from the FA's own verdict that he lied?

I don't know what actually happened that day, but it seems that neither do the FA and for me, the decision was made with politics and the media pressure in mind, rather than the actual events, of which nobody seems to agree upon!!

 

Evra and the FA both stated that Suarez was NOT a racist!

Are you suggesting that they are wrong with this? And if so, then is it possible that they could be wrong about other things too? Just saying...

 

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Doesn't count as you were not standing on your soap box there Adolf

 

It is incredible that some scousers are so thick they are willing to argue and prolong an incident that they have been widely condemned for. It must be Dalglish the buffoon who did not provide the leadership required. If he did not support Suarez this piece of **** in his RACIST actions we would have moved on by now. Maybehecould still have been in a job.

 

Condemned by whom?

Give me one example of somebody, or an organisation, who (with factual evidence) rightly condemned Liverpool or Suarez' actions.

All I remember from that decision was a report littered with inaccuracies and inconsistent evidence from Fergie, Evra, Suarez, Dalglish, Commoli, Kuyt, the interpreter used to question Suarez and the panel themselves. I also remember the language experts saying that Evra's version of events does not make sense if they were spoken as he claimed, yet Suarez' actions were consistent with his native tongue and made sense linguistically...yet the panel decided that they knew better than the experts they employed and decided that Evra's version (even though it made no sense) was the one that was to be believed.

As I said earlier, I don't know what happened...but two things are important to remember here. Firstly, If this incident had have been referred to the police/CPS, then we wouldn't have had to witness and be subject to the GUESSES made by three englishmen who knew nothing about South American culture or the Spanish language spoken in that area, yet decided that they could sit in judgement! Secondly, there is still no video evidence or audio evidence or any witnesses to back up Evra's claim that he was abused 10 times, I find that extremely strange and if I was a United fan I would be worried that Evra can be exposed here as a liar. And thirdly, you do not know what happened either, by repeatedly calling Suarez a racist, you are undermining both your own captain and the panel that you are so willing to accept as being correct regardless of any proof!

So, why are you happy to call Evra and the panel liars, yet happy to believe them when it suits, that is strange behaviour and makes you look a bit stupid to be honest, and possibly very angry!

Finally, answer this question, not that you have answered any other questions (obviously they are too difficult or will undermine your stance), but hey, have a go at this one...

I would like to know why Fergie decided to tell the referee that the word N*****r was used! Nobody else mentions this word at all...yet the whole case was referred to the authorities by Fergie saying Suarez called Evra a n*****r, so why did he say this? Evra doesn't refer to it in his statements, none of the United players mention it, yet Fergie was running around Anfield using the word!!! Can you explain that, and can you explain why nobody mentions this? To me it is a disgrace that a knight of the realm would behave in such a manner, knowingly lying to the authorities and knowingly causing a ****storm that was based on a lie, his lie!

 

What a load of nonsense

This has been endlessly debated at the time. Every one had their arguments and that piece of sh*t was found guilty by a panel. The club accepted their punishment. No need for this BS Here again.

All we know as fact is that that piece of sh*t was found guilty by an FA panel and banned for 8 weeks ! No club appeal ...fact!

I would not be surprised if that piece of sh*t gets booed at every ground not just at OT!

 

^^^^

So you cannot (or do not want to) answer the very simple questions I have asked in my last couple of posts!

And again you ignore the fact that Liverpool could not appeal the guilty verdict.

Your anger towards Suarez is very evident, I imagine you are jealous of him and what he has achieved in his life...yes he was found 'probably' guilty by an organisation that is roundly criticised for not having a clue how to run things by fans of all clubs, but in this case you feel the FA are spot on and their decision cannot be questioned, fair enough! It does just appear you are jealous of Luis, and that to me is evident in your replies, full of anger and hate...never mind!

Anyway, seeing as you don't want to debate this anymore or answer my questions I will leave you alone, maybe you can vent your anger towards something else, your wife/girlfriend/boyfriend maybe...see ya!

 

You can think what you want. I am not f**king bothered

The debate has been had and that piece of sh*t will never clear his name because his punishment or decision was not appealed. He will go down in the records as guilty of vile and racist actions.

Let it rest.

 

Jeez, you guys still banging the same drum?! Good to see the scouser is still sticking to the same incorrect arguments as always

Incorrect. Under FA rules both the decision and the punishment could be appealed:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16295932
"Alejandro Balbi, who is also Suarez's agent, said his player was "convinced" the punishment would be reversed."

Liverpool decided not to appeal cos they had no evidence, and no grounds on which the try to get it overturned.

Does it matter? The fact remains that it was established by everyone connected with the case, and admitted by Suarez, that Suarez called Evra "negro". That's what he was banned for. That's also why Liverpool knew any appeal would lose.

The PFA:
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmi...ez-row-player-condemned-again-97319-30314593/

The National Black Police Association:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ool-condemned-Luis-Suarez-racism-support.html

And let's not forget Liverpool FC condemning Suarez:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/sorry-suarez-condemned-by-club/story-e6frexni-1226269341171

Actually evidence was provided by two individuals with detailed knowledge of South American culture and the Spanish language. And if the incident had been referred to the court then it would have been based on the judgement of 12 English people who knew even less about South American culture!

Why would we be worried? There's very rarely video evidence of racist comments - even the Terry video is sketchy at best. And like you say, there is no video evidence, so how is Evra going to be "exposed"?

Because Evra thought Suarez had called him "negre" which is French for "n****r". It's clearly spelt out in the FA report - suggest you read paragraph 180 of the official report you claim to have read in such detail...

Hope this has cleared up your somewhat confused view on the subject. I hope it will help you move on and accept what has happened, the same way Utd fans had to accepted it when the same system, using the same criteria, imposed much longer bans on Cantona and Rio. I'm sure it will be much easier for you to accept. After all, it's not like Suarez' ban actually cost you a shot at the PL

 

Pretty sure if I was falsely branded to the world wide press as a racist, harming my family (who are black in this case) and as Suarez says, the wife, I'd deny it every chance I got too.

How can anyone comment on what 'he should do' or 'what I would do' if we've NEVER been in his situation and most likely never will be. Very easy to sit on the sidelines and say things are disrespectful or ridiculous.

Also, it's an interview isn't it? Blame whoever asked the question!