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Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Carra_Rud, May 23, 2012.

  1. Crackerjack

    Crackerjack Active Member

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    Britton left to get away from Sousa . Most starters don't want to go Mabon because there minutes will go missing . If Sig signs , it will be because he knows his minutes are guarenteed . Most starters won't go because there scared to IMO .
     
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  2. Terror ball

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    I hope we haven't allowed a minimum release fee to be inserted into his contract. If we have we should re-negotiate his contract this summer moving him to the top end of our pay range and set a minimum release fee at about £25m, or better still none at all.

    We don't need to sell, he is integral to our team and we can set the price at whatever we like....or let him play out his contract and leave on a free (in this scenario he would still have to perform and strive to get better or in 3 years time risk having no Prem interest at all). As his wages are currently, relatively, low this would still be a better deal for us than £5million.

    Fuk the cost of a replacement, if someone wants to cherry pick our best players they should have to pay enough money to fund 2/3. That's how the club will keep moving forward.

    Can't believe how some can't see how this is the best policy, it seems to have been our policy ever since Martinez and co. left....and it's working.

    Clubs came knocking for Bodde, Britton, Pratley and who knows maybe even De Vries. They didn't make big enough offers so we kept the players until they left on frees (Bodde being the exception of course).
    Didn't work out well for any of them did it? But we got our money's worth. Long may it continue.
     
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  3. jackdan

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    If Ramsey hadnt broken his leg, then as he would have been a regular in the Arsenal, now he would be worth approx £20 million BUT now, not a chance in hell. The lad has loads of potential but hasnt looked right since coming back and his place will be taken by Wiltshire when he comes back. Its no coincidence that Arsenal's form picked up dramatically when they dropped him for a couple of games and played Arteta in the attacking midfield position. IMO they are both currently worth about £10-12 million.
     
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  4. MabonJack

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    i will be honest with you , there maybe an over reaction by the celtic football nations over this but i support the FAW on this because FIFA are not a trustworthy group and their assurances mean nothing, but what really pisses me off about this is would the english be so pro team gb if the olympics was being held in Japan i think not, its only PR to show the world how supposedly united we are which is BS. As far as i am concerned no welsh player for their own ego has the right to put at risk the welsh national team and deprive our youngsters the right to play for wales in the future. rant over
     
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  5. Crackerjack

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    Bit harsh that Mabon , any player should be able to play for what team the rules allow .... Wales , or any other country , has no hold on what any player does within the rules !
     
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  6. MabonJack

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    Breezy Britton had verbally agreed to join Wigan in the november before he left us, that is why he broke off negotiations "until the end of the season", thinking he had tied up a contract at Wigan, but when the time came he told swansea that he would not be staying knowing that he had a contract waiting for him at Wigan, but then mysteriously Martinez's phone went off and stayed off, the only other team to show an interest was sheff utd, and as he had told swansea he was not resigning, martinez' suddenly became uncontactable the only show in town was a contract from sheff utd which was much better than swansea's offer and the only offer on the table for him he joined sheff utd, it had nothing to do with Sousa, lets just say that was convenient.
     
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  7. jackdan

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    The FAW are not exactly a trustworthy group either but better the devil you know I suppose. Have to disagree with you wholeheartedly with potentially banning any welsh player who plays for team GB. Reasons being
    1. It could be the only opportunity that any welsh player has of playing in a 'major' tournament and if a player wants to do that then they should get all the support they deserve as effectively they will still be representing their country, just in a team with other british nations and
    2. team GB will take the better welsh players... e.g Ramsey, Allen, Bale and Williams i think is also within a chance of a call up and if we ban them then we really will be in the **** and THAT if anything will risk the Welsh national team as it will set us back a number of years again and its not as if we have a wealth of players to pick from (well not until our academy is up and running churning out welsh internationals of a premier league standard :) )
     
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  8. MabonJack

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    Breezy Wales is the third oldest football nation in the world, and we must do everything that we can to maintain our existence, no player has a right to put our national team at risk for our future welsh international players, they have the same dreams as our current crop of players. And that is the same for every footballing nation on our planet
     
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  9. Crackerjack

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    Whatever you say Mabon ! ... P.S. The FAW is becoming a mix of convenience & inconvenience these days , depending on the issue at hand .
     
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  10. Crackerjack

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    Like I say Mabon , every player has the right to play within the rules at hand .. Everyone will never be happy , but every player will have a choice & should have . Better get off this one while the gettings good ... Cheers !!
     
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    If there was not the threat of sanctions from FIFA by that i mean a risk that we could lose our independance i would agree with you, but there is a risk, Jackdan i see what you are saying, but these are welsh international players, there is no uk team, and if the price at the end to massage their ego's is the loss of our national team, well i would have no problem in banning them. If england were not in the euro's apart from bale and possibly ramsey the rest would be sunning themselves on a beach somewhere.
     
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  12. MabonJack

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    Breezy come back there is a good debate developing here

    <laugh>
     
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  13. Crackerjack

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    bigkidderz in Brittons role , laid back & decisive . Yankee in Sigs role , carefully aggressive . Ivor in Graham role , hard working with no hesitation ( he who hesitates .... ) .
     
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  14. Crackerjack

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    oops , wrong threat Lol !!! ... while I'm here , what about the guy that just lives around the corner from you Mabon , Wales through & through , knows it's just for the Olympics & wants to see Bale & the boys play . Is he really putting his country at risk over a football competion every 4th year or just wants to watch them play . How bout those young " Wales " players not making it anywhere with there country & given this opportunity .
     
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  15. MabonJack

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    If a person is Wales through and through they will agree that we should protect Wales and its football history, Why put our national team at risk for a minor football tournament that we have not entered since 1972. And then it was an amateur team full of english players. As for our players if the risk was not there there would be no problem, but it is there and will always be there. The only reason that there is a fuss is because the olympics is in the english capital, if it wasin Japan nobody would give a monkeys, there will be no team gb in the next olympics, there is no appetite for this in the home nations, christ they can not sell the tickets.
     
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  16. Crackerjack

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    Might end up with a few gold medals around young players from Wales necks , be a horrible thing to keep from them . You make ir sound like Wales will fall off the end of the Earth if these players play ... IT'S JUST FOOTBALL !!
     
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    It's not just football... it's England flexing their muscles after taking billions from the tax payer, local sporting facilities and lottery funded charities to help pump more money into London. Hey, forget your heritage, it's all cool cos Beckham's here!?

    Whilst we are at it, as we are in a recession, why not spend hundreds of millions on a celebration for the queen as well. It's not like the NHS/emergency services/schools are hard up, is it?

    There is more chance of a child being inspired to succeed by a properly funded school with extra-curricular activites from qualified/motivated teachers, than watching the London Olympics on TV.
     
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    For a thread about a relatively small Twitter transfer rumour, this thread has really taken off! I like it!
     
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  19. MabonJack

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    <applause> Very true swimaway
     
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  20. MabonJack

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    Breezy i wish it was just me speculating about this, but there are major power struggles going on in FIFA, and David Will who was a scottish vice president of FIFA and very respected within world football, warned the FAW,SFA and FAI that there is a very real possibility that a move would be made to unite the FA,FAW,SFA,FAI into 1 british football association if the british fa's got involved in the olympic football team, sepp blatter is on record as saying just leave the english play because it could stir the pot within FIFA and it could force FIFA to change the current arrangements in place for the british fa's, so no amount of gold is worth risking our independance, why won't FIFA give thoise assurances in writing if they are gauranteed lets have the written proof, they won't because they can not. its all about the african and carribean associations trying to build their power base up.


    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...-gb-claims-warns-david-taylor-86908-20891039/



    http://www.criticalfootball.com/2011/06/23/team-gb-boa-olympic-agreement/
     
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