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Schumacher: Destination Unknown?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by EternalMSC, May 23, 2012.

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What Will Schumacher Gain?

  1. Race Win.

  2. Race Podium.

  3. 4th-24th (Nothing Special).

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  1. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    So you agree with a "fraud" that the tyres are not strong enough for F1? The hypocrisy runs strong in you.
     
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  2. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Fraud may be a bit strong, but there's little doubt with the revelations that have since been made that Schumacher has never won a WDC without having car and equipment advantages over everyone, including his team-mates. My personal opinion is that even in his prime he wouldn't be as good as Alonso.
     
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  3. ErnieBecclestone

    ErnieBecclestone Well-Known Member

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    Eternal, no mate, I agree with MS about the silly Pirelli tyres, I don't think I've been hypocritical in any way.

    I just think MS would still be struggling whatever tyre's were being used, the other drivers would just be even further ahead than they are now.

     
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  4. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    If Schuey is the only driver not to have got used to the tyres so far, it does suggest where the real fault lies.......

    Everyone else has to make the most of them, so why can't he? I guess as these aren't Bridgestone 'MS-Ferrari' spec tyres he has been struggling with them. It does show what advantage a driver/team can have if tyres are tailor made for their cars at the expense of everyone esle, as was the case with Schuey/Ferrari. No one stood a chance. Now we have a level playing field, look who can't keep up!
     
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  5. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    I like the way Benson has put this new article:

    [h=1]Michael Schumacher must improve for Mercedes - Brawn[/h]"The issue of Michael scoring only two points is not just down to Michael. It's down to some of the technical problems we've had with the car." - Brawn.

    Typical vermin journalist twisting words eh.
     
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  6. allsaintchris.

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    Brawn is hardly going to come out and say its all Schuey's fault, is he? Yes there have been problems, but when there have been no problems Schuey hasnt put in performances to match Rosberg or get even close to him.

    A further quote from Brawn regarding the tyres doesn't really back up his no.2 driver either :-

    "You either can complain about it, or keep your head down and do a better job than anyone else," he explained. "That is what we are faced with, because the tyres will not change dramatically this year."

    Suggests Schuey should shut up and put up.
     
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  7. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    In Australia, as Rosberg was falling back at a rate of knots, Michael was in a solid 3rd, and holding on to it.
    In China, he was in for a solid 2nd conserving his tyres.
    In Malaysia he was overtaken by Webber at the start, but was knocked off 4th position by Mr.Grosjean, but still managed to beat Rosberg.
    In Bahrain, he worked his way up from 22nd (which originated from a car failure in Qualifying and a gearbox change).
    In Spain - It was his fault, misjudgment of the car ahead (which happens), none of the top drivers are immune to this.
     
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  8. cosicave

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    I must say, it's refreshing to read the wisdom emerging in this thread. The blinkers many wore in the past are far less evident now, as Schumacher pollutes his own legacy.

    He had a few really good races very early in his career; but as soon as he drove for Briatore (a match made in heaven with their total disregard for standards, ethics, or sportsmanship), he appeared to be getting special treatment.

    But except with regard to his amazing ability to galvanise favourable circumstance, one concludes that without special treatment, he really is nothing special…
     
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  9. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    what do you mean APPEARED? - HE DID.
     
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  10. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    Agreed Bergy. I was trying to tread gently for those who are only just waking up…
     
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  11. Kyle?

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    The thread title is misleading. It says Destination unknown. I think we know where Schumacher is heading, straight into the dustbin of F1 history.
     
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  12. Kyle?

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  13. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    I like how
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    to make a story out of nothing
     
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  14. Kyle?

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    And no mention of Lewis Hamilton either. Kojak is letting his standards slip.
     
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  15. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    That's typical Benson spin though, Kyle.
    Brawn refers to the team "collectively" with virtually every comment quoted. Benson's headline is a rather cheap distortion.
     
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  16. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    cheap defines the man pretty well really.
     
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  17. Kyle?

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    Never trust a man who has to use Mr. Sheen on his head rather than Shampoo.
     
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  18. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>
     
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  19. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    A bit harsh to say the least, he has achieved what could be achieved in his earlier career. And now he is driving for the team that brought him into F1, yes we are seeing him struggle so earlier on this season, but 1/5 faults have been his own.
    What he did at Ferrari should not be forgotten, one of the greatest turnarounds in the history of the sport. He dominated, people did not enjoy that, but it was his intelligence, talent and wit that maintained his position there.
    Do not sympathise with drivers that lacked that.

    Still we have many races left this season, and one win is all it takes for his comeback to be successful (relative to Mercedes starting off downhill in 2010, they are now fighting for pole and potentially winning races), continuity and development is the key to every great success.


    Happy to see people agreeing with Bensons journalism skills.
     
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  20. ErnieBecclestone

    ErnieBecclestone Well-Known Member

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    Eternal, your faith, loyalty and optimism is unyielding and to be admired, it's a shame it's wasted on the wrong person.
     
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