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Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by The Boxer, May 23, 2012.

  1. gent

    gent Well-Known Member

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    Yes, fringe conspiracy theory websites are very reliable sources.

    How about on your statement that the Fed and Bank of England are owned by Rothshchilds? That is a very specific statement. The ownership of these institutions is very transparently disclosed, and has to be disclosed.


    I still didn't get an answer why you made that statement. Take your time.
     
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  2. PLease link your sources of public knowledge and show how they are a small part of the equation.

    So far you have brought zero to the whole debate, and would appear to be nothing more than a rather stupid troll.
     
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  3. lazarus20000

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    If you're too lazy to read up on the Rothchild's and on other banking related conspiracies, the "Money Masters" is a very good factual documentary on the history of these banking cartels. It makes sense why things are the way they are in the world. Not everything is black and white.
     
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  4. gent

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    <doh>.
     
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    gent Well-Known Member

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    Why are you avoiding it? You said the bank of england is owned by the Rothschilds too. (The fed being the other)

    That is false. I'm asking why you made that statement. Why are you sidestepping on a statement you made a couple of minutes ago?
     
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  6. gent

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    The statement: "rothschilds own the bank of England" by Jayram is black and white, and is absolutely FALSE.

    I made absolutely no statement that said Rothschilds are not important players in the banking industry.
     
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  7. House Banking Committee Staff Report of August, 1976 - this is actualy the source for many articles on the subject, although I have also pointed you towards a good book for you to learn from.

    Its already been linked for you, so follow that line of research through

    Now link your source which transparently links the ownership structurs of the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England. I would be very interested as even today an audit of the privately owned Federal Reserve is not possible, and the US Senate are trying to pass a bill to enable them to carry out an audit.

    Here is a link for you on the proposed bill

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1207/show

    You might like to contact them to let them know they are wasting their time and that you already have full transparency <ok> You said, i quote, "The ownership of these institutions is very transparently disclosed, and has to be disclosed."


    They have been trying for nearly 3 years now without success, you could make yourself a celebrity by filling everyone in on the detail.

    Its plainly obvious, having added nothing of value, that you do not know what you are talking about Gent, and you have come across as a right twat.
     
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  8. theHotHead

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    Nobody knows who owns the Bank of England <ok>

    And the Fed are not accountable to anybody, they can't even be audited <ok>

    So the US government and the UK government borrow money from entities that are a law unto themselves and don't answer to anyone, they borrow money that the banks don't even have and have to pay it back with interest. Then they foul up the economy and we, the citizens, have to pay to bail them out, then before you know it, the bankers are getting huge bonuses again while everyone else is looking at job losses and austerity.

    The banking system is a bloody joke and I have worked for Barclays, HSBC Asset & Investment Management and BNP.

    How can you tell me there are people, smart people, creating mechanisms so complicated their bosses can't even understand them and they are being left to run amok just as long as they are making the bank money ?

    I love the way gent hasn;'t bothered answering one of my questions but feels the need to pursue a tired argument with Jayram <doh>

    Those who say nothing usually have nothing to say.
     
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  9. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    Whenever you look into anything, you should always look at different sources. Never just take your sources from mainstream media or from any other specific outlet. Mainsteam media, like others, have their own agenda's and affiliations. The documentary i pointed out is a very good historical account on how bankers have behaved for quite sometime and how they can affect policies/political parties for their own agenda's. This is money we are talking about, people can do all sorts of things for it, and bankers are no different....
     
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  10. gent

    gent Well-Known Member

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    Kid. You should read up on argumentation before you link me to more conspiracy


    You didn't say "there are articles questioning the ownership of the <insertNameHere>". You said "Rothschilds own the Bank of England". That is a very assured absolute statement, which you should back up with facts.


    The Fed is not "privately owned", it is independently run within the government, there is a difference.
     
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  11. gent

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    I take it you replied without even reading my post. I never said "it's all simple".

    I said the statement by Jayram is false, which it is. He is still sidestepping that question. He made a strong statement about the institution's ownership, not the Rothschild vague involvement in banking. No one is contesting that.


    Anyway, off to sleep.
     
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  12. On what basis do you call my point absolutely false? Can you please post the ownership structures of the Fed and BOE please to verify?

    You might also like to research Edmund Dell.

     
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  13. theHotHead

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    A quote taken from the Federal Reserve website:
    How so ? If it is not owned by anyone and it is not a profit making institution, who are the interest payments going to when the US government borrow money from the Fed and wy do the US government have to pay interest ?

    I'm sure gent will side step another question of mine.
     
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    Really ?? I thought you'd been asleep all through this argument because you have added nothing to it <ok>
     
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  15. You have a source already linked. Is it 100% proof, no. Given the amount of research I have done on the subject, do i believe it to be true - yes.

    Now, are you going to bed because you have no way of substantiating your bull**** about clear transparency into the Fed and BOE?

    Are you going to dig a further hole for yourself?

    Post the ownership structures of both.
     
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  16. <laugh>... so now an official bill being put through the US Senate to allow an audit of the Fed is conspiracy <laugh>

    Wow, your not just not very bright are you <laugh>
     
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  17. I think Gent just jumped to the top of the idiot charts.
     
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  18. gent

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    Obviously not referring to that link.

    Sent from a mobile device.
     
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    gent Well-Known Member

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    I can only keep up with so many conspiracy nuts at a time.

    Sent from a mobile device.
     
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    gent Well-Known Member

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    That is proof?

    I'm going to bed cause its 0033 here.

    Tata and remember to fold the foil before hitting the pillow.

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