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Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by The Boxer, May 23, 2012.

  1. Banks dont have nationalities HH

    The Rothschild family own central banks all over the world and have adopted fractional reserve robbery - erm banking - in every major nation in the world. This includes China and Russia.

    I believe - but have not checked the latest that there are less than 10 countries in the world who do not have a central bank owned by the Rothschilds.
     
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  2. TheBear

    TheBear Well-Known Member

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    I can honestly say I have never seen you say anything construction on these forums.
     
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  3. theHotHead

    theHotHead New Member

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    Dude - running away from the argument I see. We are having an adult discussion, you are welcome to correct us if you can, it is far easier to mudsling and offer nothing as evidence. <doh>

    I didn't study at Oxford or Cambridge but I have done enough of my own research to know a) where money comes from, b) where banks came from, c) the fractional reserve system, d) what inflation is, e) why, where, how and when the Federal Reserve bank came about, f) how banks manufacture booms and busts, g) why we had the credit crunch, h) who set out the terms and conditions of the UK bank bailout and finally, i) the lost billions at the Federal Reserve after the US government bailout.
     
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  4. Yep confirmed - you have no knowledge <ok>
     
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  5. gent

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    This is hilarious. So disregarding the other functions of the federal reserve (some of which I also disagree with), why is it so surprising to you that this institution of the largest economy of the world would be in this position?

    You do know almost every other country in the world has an institution with a similar role don't you? Why would the equivalent institution of a smaller economy have a greater supply?
     
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  6. I am quite sure there are pockets of honest business people all over the world, but at a macro level I say that the US is the most corrupt country in the world, simply because that is where the largest supply of money is. Its not about nations per se - its about bankers, who have no national identity.
     
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    We have the bank of england's reserve i believe.
     
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    IF this:
    constitutes "adult discussion", than I am clearly not fit for that level of discourse.

    <doh>
     
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    What do you do for a living gent?
     
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  10. Yes i do, and the vast majority of them are owned by the same people <ok> I am assuming from your comment you were not aware of that.

    I am not surprised at all that the US, and the world, is in this position.

    Just to test your knowledge, because I dont want to waste time with someone who is ignorant on the subject - please explain fractional reserve banking in one paragraph...
     
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  11. theHotHead

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    Rather than sniping .. educate us then if you have a better understanding. I'm always open to debate. Prove me wrong then :)

    Jayram, I know, but we have differences, the Fed Reserve is the US Central bank but we have the Bank of England. The US banks answer to the Securities and Exchange Commision, we have the FSA and Ombudsman, I'm just throng names out there, I don't know where they fit in reality but I do know our banks operate in a slightly different way to the US counterparts - the laws of the land the bank is operating in prevail.
     
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    gent Well-Known Member

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    Assuming you meant "constructive", thanks. I tried to be constructive with your flawed use of statistics in quite a few threads, your stubbornness to admit those basic flaws isn't really my problem. (wasting so much time on explaining them, probably was foolish of me)


    Btw, since I know you rate Szczesny, I'll say this: by your logic, and the way you use statistics, he would be our worst keeper out of Almunia, Mannone, Flappyhandsky. Keep on keeping on. <laugh>
     
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  13. gent

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    I work for one of those evil entities. :D
     
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  14. PINKIE

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    It's not often that I agree with Jayram, but I have to say that he's right about the banking system and the Federal reserve (which is a privately owned company) The Federal reserve basically lend money (that they don't have) at interest to Governments. Governments are in debt to their lenders (the federal reserve) and so they levy taxes against us to pay them back, thereby creating a profit from nothing. It's a big con trick.

    What we see in Europe at the moment is another version of it. The Euro zone. Countries like Greece are tied into the Euro, but because of a failing economy (created by failing private banks) they have to be bailed out by the central bank, the IMF, in return, they give more of their power to the central control of finance and become forever indebted trying to pay of their loans.

    It's basically, private companies milking the people, through their governments in order to amass more wealth and power.

    If anyone is interested in an alternative, they should look at Iceland. The Icelandic banks crippled their economy, the 'helpful' IMF offered to bail them out (loan them money at interest) the Icelandic govt were about to accept, and levy a tax on the people that equated to every Icelander having to pay £115 per month each for 35 years to clear the debt (assuming that the Icelandic economy recovered). The people said no, forced their govt to resign, they arrested the bankers and corporate CEO's that created the meltdown, installed a new govt and elected citizens to rewrite their national constitution, which includes a national referendum on any economic decisions that affect the country.

    Have you heard about this in the mainstream media ? There's a reason for that. Because the same private companies who own the banks, also own the media companies. There is no value in broadcasting peaceful revolution for those who want to keep the status quo.
     
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    You have made it clear you actually don't know as much as you think. I believe that you have now realised that some of us may actually know what we are talking about.

    My statement about corruption is verifiable and anyone who has done even a little research knows this. There are quotes from ex Fed Reserve bosses and ex US presidents confirming the corruption of banking and the Federal Reserve <ok>
     
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    <applause>

    PISKIE knows his onions :)
     
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    Well well well, I see the tinfoil hat is fully engaged now.
     
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  18. The Bank of England is also owned by the Rothschilds. Thats my point - the same family own the central banks of the world.
     
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    Tell me gent, why are banks allowed to create money from nothing but I am not ?

    Tell me why the government borrow money from a bank and pay it back with interest but won't print money via the treasury because of hyper inflation ? whether the money is printed or credit from thin air (which it was) the money still ends up in circulation, so why does one not create hyper inflation but the other allegedly does ?
     
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  20. <laugh>. You are now confirmed as stupid <ok> I take you have no clue at all <laugh> I always have a giggle at the completely stupid people of the world who stumble through life with no knowledge. Still ignorance is bliss they say...
     
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