Are we refusing to renegotiate Ba's contract?

Oh man Oba Martins. What a playah!

 

Was at the playoff final on Saturday as a guest of a blackpool player and was sitting next to his agent. I was discussing Newcastle with him and he said he knows Ba's agent and he confirmed that there is definitely a clause in the contract and he reckoned 7mill was about the right number. He also said that Ba's team demanded it due to Newcastle refusing to buckle on the wage on offer and that Ba is a relatively low earner for a premier league striker.

Surely after a 16 goal prem season he is worth a wage increase.

 

Which is probably why Pardew has publically said they will open contact negotiations over the summer, with his apparent injury problems it makes sense to put a player on a lower wage with additional appearance money to give him the incentive to stay fit.
I've heard he is on £35K a week with a £15K appearance bonus.
Pardew also said what has been reported on the clause isn't completely true and wouldn't give any more info out. So it's probably £7 million if we don't get into europe or get relegated or something along those lines I'd expect.

 

He should count himself lucky if he has a 15k app bonus. I was pretty sure the club have made it quite clear they no longer offer incentive based contracts. I'm sure I read something whereby they give you your flat pay and that is all on all new contracts. Could be wrong, it may have just been a night where I've had too much jager!

 

For me it will be his agent " bigging " him up so that he can milk him ( or us ) for his cut. I hate the Tos.ers getting players to jump ship all too frequent.They are parasites.

 

A good spin from www.nufc.com



As expected, speculation over the future of Newcastle striker Demba Ba is continuing to provide column inches for journalists in the close season.

The Senegal international striker who turns 27 on Friday is under contract at SJP for another two seasons, but that deal includes a £7m release clause, as 'Arry Redknapp helpfully revealed back in January:***

From The Telegraph, Thursday:*

Newcastle....could have tried to remove the clause by offering the Senegal international an increase in his £50,000 weekly wage.

But managing director Derek Llambias will not be forced into offering improved terms to a player after just 12 successful months as he feels this would be a dangerous precedent.

As a result, Ba, will be able to talk to any club who bids £7million when the transfer window opens next month, with Tottenham, Chelsea and Manchester United already linked to him.

... there is a chance Ba will find it difficult to complete a move because of long-standing medical concerns.... insurance could still be a problem for any interested parties to activate the release clause.

Given what we've seen in the five years that Mike Ashley has been in control of this club, the separate elements of this story all look to build up into something substantial:

1. Ba's age is at the upper end of the club's squad profile.

2. Despite his availability to play throughout last season, concerns over his fitness do remain and his knee issue has been described as a degenerative one ie it won't improve.

3. Assuming his selection for Senegal, Ba faces a further absence next season for African Nations Cup final duty - along with fellow forward Papiss Cisse. That's not a particularly satisfactory situation if it can be avoided.

4. A reluctance to offer a wage increase and saddle the club with another long-term high earner, plus a desire to avoid a domino effect amongst the squad - the days of "highest earner" deals and parity-type contracts are over.

5. A reluctance to be dictated to by agents - it was reported that Ba's advisors were seeking to renegotiate terms with NUFC - something that a number of other players tried and failed to achieve ie Barton, Nolan etc.*
Tiote's extended deal by contrast came out of the blue and was awarded to him by the club.*

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Ba's failure to find the net in the closing stages of last season could* count against him in terms of a similar new deal 'reward' - despite the team benefit his performances provided.****

6. The availability of younger strikers playing international football for European nations, who can be recruited on smaller wages and contracts more in favour of NUFC eg Luuk De Jong (Twente) and Bas Dost (Heerenveen). They also potentially have a higher sell-on value, if they make a successful transition to the Premier League.*

7. The availability of strikers who were previously scouted/ approached by United who for various reasons weren't acquired previously eg Modibo Maiga (wage demands too high) and Kevin Gameiro (opted to join PSG instead but is now seemingly on his way out of there).
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8. In twelve months time the player will be a year older, may have continued the poor run of goalscoring form of the second half of last season and may not have other clubs chasing him - especially if his fitness has declined.

And if the sell-on clause means that United can't profit from a bidding war among other clubs, then theoretically they could use the situation to their advantage if a player at one of those clubs is a transfer target - or there's a fight on between United and one of those clubs to sign someone from a different club.**

9. A previously-stated desire by the club to trade but maintain their competitiveness: putting aside a repeat of the Carroll mega bid scenario for Cisse, doing a deal for Ba could be the least-worst scenario, although we remain apprehensive about both Tiote and Krul's futures.****

10. The exception to many of the previous points is Fabricio Coloccini, who successfully won a new four year deal back in March at the age of 30.*

The public support of and praise for his captain by Alan Pardew suggests though that Colo was his "first pick" and he used up his wild card on pushing that deal through.******

Putting all that together, it can be argued that to not get rid of Demba Ba would be against the club's stated policy for transfer dealings. Equally however, a new contract for the player could just as easily be announced tomorrow...

PS: Ba and compatriot Papiss Cisse were due to be in friendly action for Senegal against Egypt today, but that match was postponed due to a dispute over the venue.

Senegal play World Cup Qualifiers against Liberia and Uganda early next month, but there seems to some dispute over who will be in their side - with claims on African websites that Ba hadn't responded to his callup invitation and it was uncertain whether he'd feature.

 

Apart from the start of the season where he looked like a decent player Ba has been a bit of a letdown. I dont think he plays for the team anymore and he seems to be only interested in goals, hes become selfish. I acttually think we look better when Ameobi plays with Cisse lol which is saying alot!

Let him go and free up some wages for another striker who fits our team better.

 

Got him for free, knee not going to improve?

£7m sounds like a sweet deal to me.

Next!

 

Couldn't agree more

 

DEMBA Ba insists contract negotiations are ongoing with Newcastle United amid claims he had rejected a new offer.

The Senegal striker is away on holiday this week, but has left discussions over an improved deal in the hands of his management team.

Reports yesterday suggested that Ba had refused to renegotiate his current contract, which is believed to contain a £7m release clause.

But Ba last night insisted he hadn’t turned down the new terms on the table and that talks are still in hand.

Replying on Twitter to a Newcastle fan who asked about rumours that the striker wasn’t going to sign a new contract, Ba said: “I don’t (know) man. I just enjoy my holiday.

“My guys are working on it. We’ll wait to see how far the talks go.”

Ba signed for Newcastle on a free transfer from West Ham United last summer after taking advantage of a clause in his contract with the Hammers after they were relegated.

He penned a three-year deal with the Magpies though the contract also included a release clause, which could be activated by any club matching a set fee for the player, believed to be around £7m.

Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp angered Newcastle fans and officials by revealing details of this clause to reporters back in January when Ba was in the midst of a superb goalscoring run.

The striker bagged 15 goals before jetting off to the Africa Cup of Nations, but netted only once on his return to Britain as he was forced to play second fiddle to new signing Papiss Demba Cisse, often moved out to a left-wing role.

Spurs, Manchester United and Chelsea have all been linked with a move for the hitman, and could talk to the player once the transfer window opens next month if they match the £7m fee.

United boss Alan Pardew admitted last week that he’s not certain that Ba will be a Newcastle player next season, saying: “There is a clause there. There is a situation with his contract, and we are in talks with him and his agent. It is not a foregone conclusion that he will stay.”

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport...astle-united-contract-talks-ongoing-1-4583731

 

never mind all that negativity, Happy Birthday Demba Ba

 

Even if Ashley did want to sell him, he would make sure he got him to sign a new contract first so he could sell him for more.

 

Im convinced this happens you know. Everyone but the buying club benefits

 

A more positive twist..

http://www.nufcblog.com/2012/05/26/demab-ba-my-guys-are-working-on-new-newcastle-contract/

 

We will be simply taking what the clause is and thinking 100% profit and know his knee will go next season.